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Social Engineering the future

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Pulling back the curtain










georgepmonty@gmail.com



Transcript:
Speaker 0 (0s): Whoo. Hey, guess what? It's Thursday. It's Thursday. Everybody was so close to the weekend. We're so close, man. We're like at the one checkpoint away, prepare to qualify. Hey guys, feeling out there. Cause feeling good another day. And the next day of your today's the next day of your dream life. I don't know what the hell does that even mean today is the next day in your life. 

That sounds a little bit more on point, right? I guess that's at least honest. I've been doing a lot more thinking about social engineering and I want, I want everybody to read. I read these books. I want people to read the book. Well, propaganda by Edward Bernays. I want people to read the book. Never split the difference by boss. 

I want people to read the book, nudge by Cass, Sunstein and Richard Thaler. I want people to read the book Pre-Suasion by Cal beanie only after reading these books. Can you truly understand the dangerous beauty of propaganda only after truly understanding the mechanisms of action, which we truly think about things. 

Can you begin to manipulate things? And if you're listening to this podcast that I got to think that you share a curiosity and a, a unique affinity for manipulation, especially once you realize you've been being manipulated your whole life, what you think about God, what'd you think about family? 

What you think about race, what you think about school and education and family and gender and orientation. Like these are only the rare few people who take time to go through the books and go through the annals of history. Can truly understand the level of manipulation that's happening. And I don't really claim to be one of those people I'm learning. 

I mean, just like everybody else, I got to tell you though, there's times where the more time you start reading these books and then you just get blinds signed it like blindsided by something happens and it's man, it makes you want to cry almost like you can see the systematic district over our society happening right in front of our eyes. And I don't know if it's something that's been planned or if it's just the fact that the social engineers got lazy or if, no, maybe it's the it's like in the Qur'an instead of, you know, the Sunni Shia split, right? 

The reason those two groups fight each other is because one group believes that that the direct descendant of Muhammad should have been the leader. And the other group believes that the law Tom is number one confidant. And the reason I bring that up is the people in charge of power today. Instead of handing off the torch, just the most capable people of being in charge, they handed it off to their families and I get it. I got a family, man. I mean, who doesn't want their family to be better. 

And I guess that kind of brings up a, that brings up a, an interesting point. Are you going to hand it off to your kid or are you going to hand it off to them? The person that can move the ball forward? I don't think anybody really knows until you get to that point where you have to decide. So, but the propaganda is a, I want to, I want to try and be the guy that pulls back the curtain on the wizard of Oz. 

Remember that movie, the wizard of Oz, all powerful. It can do anything, but when you pull back the curtain, it's like a little short Rumpelstiltskin, that's greedy and selfish and ugly. And it's just been corrupted by power greed. And I think you can do, I think that now more than ever, it's easier to see the people driving the wedge between us. 

It's important to think about over the last year or a couple years, the powers or the media. Let's just say the media, the propagandists, the media, how they've been fanning, the flames of divisive tools like racism, group identity and equality. I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm not saying they don't exist. 

What I'm saying is that by the media constantly talking about it and constantly putting a huge spotlight on cases where it happens. It makes both groups, the group in question, and the other groups, whether they be perpetrators or victims, it makes those two groups at odds and it makes both groups easily. Manipulatable. Does that make sense? 

The purpose of the media is not to inform you. It is to control the way you think it's an invisible. The purpose of propaganda is to be an invisible government that forms your thoughts. It forms your tastes and it forms your worldview. Right? I think about it. So many of us are so busy. We got families, we have problems in relationships. 

We have problems with money. We have problems with work. We have problems with communication. You know, we, we rely on these so called experts to keep us informed. But what if the experts don't want you to see the truth? What if they want to show you a certain mythological view? And you can, you can argue the point that every country has a skewed view to further represent their country and their people in their values and on some level. 

That's obviously true. However, as of lately, I think everyone, regardless of your race could agree that the level of division between us right now is he mess. What is the reason for that? Is it because there's no money? Is it because the policies that have been enacted are not working? 

Is it the false promise of tech? If you, if you talked to Peter teal, that's what he'll tell you. I don't know if he tell you that, but you can watch some videos where he talks I'll be at somewhat cryptically about problems of today's economy is that there is a huge stagnation in technology. There's been no new ideas. You may think. Well, I don't know, George, I've got a new iPhone and I got a there's this new silicone chip in my computer. 

And it was a lot faster. Yeah, still a computer smaller. What does it do though? If you walked into a room and 2020, and you took out all the, all the screens, iPad, computer phone, that room would be almost indistinguishable from a room in 1950. 

So we've, there's this one idea is that there is this concerted effort to, to keep people fighting so that they don't see how much we've been lied to nor the Jetsons George Jetson, his boy, El Rowan Jane, his wife do do, do to do remember. They live in the sky pad apartments up in the, they were like Lando Calrissian. 

Remember in sky city, the Jetsons had flying cars. We don't even have self driving cars. Remember that five years ago, 10 years ago, no, everyone's going to be automated out of work. There are no jobs for you, all the, all the fast food workers, man, you're going to have flippy. The robot are making your burgers. Where's that? I'll see it. I wrote an article yesterday that talked about the, you know, the, a digital arm that makes hamburgers, you know, how much that piece of shit costs, that fucking thing costs like eight grand and then a $1,500 a month service fee. 

Think about that. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that's going to replace a 40 year old migrant worker who was willing to work for peanuts and come in every day and never call in sick. I'm not sure that that arm, that $1,500 service fee, you know where all the, Oh, sorry about that. We had a new software crash or, or, you know what? We've got a, we got some probably been hacked. I'm not sure that that promise of automation is going to pan out. 

In fact, we've been automating stuff for 200 years. We haven't audit. We haven't automated the way teachers, we haven't automated away service jobs. So if you know, if you like a finger nail through cold grease, you can easily wipe away the fucking bullshit about automation. It ain't coming. It ain't coming right. All this bullshit about fogging, Oh man. 

The new economy, the gig economy. Nope. Right here. And that's what I think a lot of the propaganda is being used for is that, Hey, guess what? There's no growth. And what you know, I'm not saying growth is, excuse me. I'm guessing growth is the catch. All that helps or is the answer. But I know this when everybody's making money, there's a lot of those problems, right? 

When everybody's got a little bit, we don't fight amongst ourselves. The one there's no money. All of a sudden the of division are drawn. And I think, I think that the people on the top are scared out of their minds because they know they're going to be the first ones to fall. Just the term bankster everybody knows what that means. 

Who are the people that run the media? Who are they? Are they overrepresented? Is there a certain group that runs the media? There's a certain group that owns the sports teams. I don't know. But I think that the media right now is having a difficult time trying to spin the anger in a fashion that helps them pay attention to what's being said, you can see that the, the anger is focused on the people at top. 

I mean, there's, there are some things that all communities in the United States agree on and we don't ever talk about that. Right? We don't ever talk about that. You're not allowed to talk about that. I like there's some, I really liked some of Jordan Peterson stuff about 12 rules for life. 

And I like some of this stuff, but there's areas where that guy wouldn't even touch. And then it just kind of brings into question his whole, tell yourself the truth. I don't want to get too much into that, but you should look into it. Another thing to think about that I've been thinking about is, is how sick is our society, right? Like you could argue, we've been declining for some time. 

You could argue it's the stagnation you could argue. It's no growth. You could argue that it is the, the fact that so many of us, we don't participate in life. Instead we, we spectate, right? Like, man, don't get me wrong. Some we gonna get mad at this, but I like sports. You know, I go to apply to go to a pottery game, go to a chargers game. I got a, I got a Doug Flutie Jersey, but as I'm come on, man, as a man, you're going to put on another man's Jersey. 

Really? 

Speaker 1 (14m 52s): You're going to you as a man. You're going to wear the Jersey of another man. Why don't you be your own man? I, you know, if you're a kid or whatever, man, you got an idol. I get it. You know, when I was in high school, I used to wrestle, right? I got a Letterman's jacket. You who wore my, let him his jacket, my girl, a girl, woman, let him his jacket. It was like a point of pride. Like this is my man right here. 

The reason I bring all that up is we're so involved in spectator. Like there's a term called spectator sports. The hell is that you're a professional spectator, the armchair quarterback, Hey, let's quit watching and start playing. You know what I mean? By that, I get it. Like sometimes the monotony of the world and the bullshit you got to go through. 

You just want to have a beer and watch a game or just take a few minutes to decompress and not be part of the world around you because it's so chaotic and you just need a break. I get it. I'm not against, I'm not against that kind of stuff. I like, I like watching boxing and I like you. I used to watch the UFC. I don't really watch it too much anymore since ESPN took it over. But, and it's not that those things are toxic. 

It's the, it's the, it's the fact that we've gone from doing to spectating. You know what I mean, by that it's bread and circus bread and circus. And if you look at the Roman empire, you can see that they've implemented the Coliseum and bread and circus. When they were on their downswing. 

In fact, number Caligula, he was the Roman emperor and he was just, he was demented in that he was demanded by excess, nothing exceeds like excess, right? But he had the boat with all like just the perversions and the heat. He was to the Caligula was to the Romans. What Jeffrey Epstein is to us. 

And the fact that you can draw such a similar parallel, I think speaks to the fact that we are in a similar time. Most people see the United States as that as the title, the United States, but the United States is an empire. We have bases all around the world. And when you look at it like that, if you just look at it from the constitution and the bill of rights and the United States, the foreign policy makes zero sense. 

But if you look at the United States as an imposter, in which all the countries pay our politicians to make decisions on their behalf, it begins to make sense. Oh, I see why we're over there because this country wants us to kill these people. Oh, they give us money. So we give them arms. Oh, I see we, we want to secure the natural resources of that country for our business and our friends and business and other countries and us as us as the citizens of America, all that's being done in our name and all of that is while widely available to read and learn about it's discouraged to learn about why would you want to, why would you want to learn about that when you can watch the playoffs? 

Why would you want to think about how we currently have secured one third of Syria, America, we America us. We own one third of Syria right now. Why would you want to start thinking about that kind of garbage when you can, you know, watch a football game, it's hard, it's hard to pay attention to that stuff. 

It's difficult to, to have any idea about that kind of stuff. When you were worried about your kids or you're worried about your relationships and you're worried about doing the right thing. However, if we don't worry about it, you know, we get, we get what we deserve, we get what we deserve. And so it's in this spirit that I've, I'm picking up the mantle of social engineering and going to try and drive some of these points home. 

So that on one level we can understand what's happening to us, right? Once you understand the magic trick, you no longer want to see it because you realize it's a con also because the same techniques that work for the people at the top, they worked for the people on the bottom. And I think right now we are in a time where the people in your community need the most help. 

And that's where you can make the most difference. You know, maybe your, maybe you're a young woman in a position of authority. Maybe you're a young man in a position of authority. Maybe you are, maybe you are someone who can be a role model. And it seems to me, we're in that transition right now. Like there's so many smart and intelligent young people who are taking up the mantle of leadership. 

And I'm worried that those people are going to be corrupted by the, the tools used by the previous set of so-called leaders. That's one reason I want to talk so much about community and leadership and doing the right thing. A lot of us have kids. A lot of us have a lot of experience in behavior and I've read a lot of books on behavior. 

And I was lucky enough to be in multiple mentorship programs where I learned how to manipulate those levers of behavior. And I want to share them with people so that they can use those same tools that I have for what I hope will be best for the community. So in that spirit, let me start off a little bit about, you guys know who sun Tzu is. 

Some zoo was a military strategist and he wrote a book called I think it was Von Clausewitz who wrote on war, man, I forgot I'll I'll I'm killing my son. Cause that's, you know, what sends his buckets? However, one quote from sun zoo is the best way to lose any war is to let the enemy dictate the rules of battle. 

The best way to lose any war is to let the enemy decide where the war is fought. It's pretty deep, but let me show you how you can use that in your everyday life. If you're an individual, let's say you let's say you work somewhere and you, you are a part of a group. However, as an employee, you do not have the authority, the same authority that the employee you're half white on a one on one situation. 

If your employer comes to you, the employee and says, listen, I'd like to talk to you for a minute. You see a mate, they take you to a corner or they, they isolate you and talk to you. You see they've dictated the rules of the battlefield. You no longer have a strong position there. You might as well be in the Valley and they're looking down at you, or you might as well have your hands tied behind your back and laying on the ground. 

And then looking over you, it's all metaphors. So if you want to affect change and you are in that position, what you would want to do, you would want to have 20 people. And if the employer wanted to talk to you, you would be in a group setting because in the group setting, that's where you're the strongest. Does that make sense? 

Because now, instead of that one person looking at you, now that one person is looking at 20 of you, right? And that now that person, now that person is effectively in the Valley and you've surrounded them. That's why we're, that's why, that's why people in positions of authority, try to isolate individuals from the group because they know that one person in the group can be very dangerous. The one person that truly understands the mechanism of behavior, he can Institute a revolution. 

He can Institute an entire changing of group behavior with a few key words. He can Institute a whole radical change by understanding the thoughts and motivations of both parties. And there's a lot of different propaganda tools that are used to make groups or people seem a certain way. 

You know, if you show over and over again, a white cop on top of a person of color, and you put that through, you show that a lot. Well, that's a message of racism. They're not saying that white people are racist, but they're showing you an example of a racist behavior, which puts in the mind of other people. 

Yeah. That's racist. And that message is a racist message. It's kind of like, let's say that someone, an authority figure, let's say that the authority figure was giving a speech to a group of people like, so there's one executive or one person in charge. 

And they're speaking to a group of say a hundred people and they're giving their speech. And then one person from the audience says, excuse me, sir, there is a rumor going around that you hate people of color. Could you address that? You see that one individual who made that comment, he has made the implicit argument that you are a racist and now you have to defend yourself against this hundred people. 

Even if you didn't see the way that that was worded. There's a rumor going around. That individual has now given himself plausible deniability while turning the entire group against the guy in the middle. And in fact, a move like that could irreversibly undermine the very credibility of the so called executive. Because even though the individual who made that statement, didn't call him racist. He has put the idea of racism in the mind of everybody there. 

Especially if people don't like that guy already, something like that has the ability to change the behavior and having large scale ramifications of the group. Right? It's a, of course I would never do anything like that. Not me. I would never do that. However, it's the same tactic as what the media kind of does. 

And it's a very sinister way of communicating division. I'm not saying that some people don't, I mean, you know, revolutions happen in countries, dissolve and governments get over thrown. These are the tools of the provocateur tour. Painting a picture in the mind of the masses is easy for an artist. 

Painting a picture in the mind of the masses is a unique way of changing people's worlds view. And you can do it. You should use your power for good. You should practice it. You should learn to understand people's motivations so that you can better maneuver yourself in the world and make your community better. 

The art of influence the art of subversion is that should be subtle like a light rain or a, a gentle, consistent layer of snow that slowly saturates the ground to the point where the ground can no longer absorb any more water. You don't notice the drizzle at first, you may notice the smallest snowfall, but there's something beautiful about it, right? You see that is the art of persuasion. 

It doesn't need to be in your face. It doesn't need to be a knee on the neck. In fact, that type of persuasion, that type of that type of communicating what you want people to do is amateur. And it shows a level of panic when people result to propaganda in that way, it's either that they're horrible propagandists or they're scared and panicking. 

And I think that the people on the bottom, I think people that get up and go to work every day. I think people that are teachers, I think people that are mentors, I think people that are leaders, they need to understand the way that they're being manipulated in a society that is sick. The person who appears normal is the sickest. Does that make sense? If we are in this society and our society is, is ill, our society is sick. 

Those who appear to be most normal are in fact, the sickest they're showing the most symptoms. The society is not well. The people adjusted to it are the, are the least, well, does that make sense? I don't have a little shot of water here. You know, I there's a book called up. 

It comes out every year. I think it comes over here. It's called the DSM. The DSM is a book written by psychologists that goes over mental disease. And every year, you know, they have like some new mental diseases in there. Sometimes they take away mental diseases and it's a kind of an expensive book. It's like probably a hundred bucks, but you can pick up the old ones for next to nothing. 

And I recommend doing that. I think it's the DSM five. I think, I think DSM five, it might be DSM-V or DSM-IV, but that was the last year that gender dysphoria was a disease. I know I'm kind of jumping around, but just want you to think about that. There is a book of mental diseases written by psychologists who nobody knows their names that tells the world what mental diseases are. 

That is a profound form of social engineering, profound. Hey, here's this book of experts that tells you what's okay. And what's not okay to think about what the fuck is that, Hey, this person has a mental disease. They have a gender dysphoria. Okay. You know what, actually gender is worse that are disease anymore. 

Like on one level. And fucking kind of makes me envious, like imagine sitting around with a group of your friends, being like, you know, what we should decide, who are the people that are fucked up in this world? And then we'll write some, some, a bullshit summary on why they think that way. And then we can classify them and, you know, disparage them or put them in mental institutes because they think a certain way. That's the very definition of thought police, right? I mean, there's that age old quote, whoever goes to a psychologist, I'd have their head examined. 

You know what I mean? So those are, those are some of the thoughts I've had on the social engineering of our nation and, you know, organizing chaos. And if I can, I'd like to read you just a little bit about propaganda. And this is from Edward Bernays, book propaganda, the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. 

Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government, which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed our minds, molded our tastes formed. Our ideas suggested largely by men. We have never heard of this is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner. If they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society, our invisible or invisible governors are in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet. 

They govern us by the qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key positions, in the social structure, whatever attitude, one chooses toward this condition, it remains a fact that almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons, a trifling fraction of our hundred and 20 million who understand the mental processes of social patterns of the masses. 

It is they who pull the wires, which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world. In theory, every citizen makes up his mind on public questions and matters of private conduct. In theory, in theory, in theory, in theory, in theory, in theory, every citizen makes up his mind on public questions and matters of private conduct in practice. 

If all men had to study for themselves, the abs truce, economic, political, and ethical data involved in every question, they would find it impossible to come to a conclusion without anything we have voluntarily agreed to let an invisible government sift the data and high spot, the outstanding issue so that our field of choice shall be narrowed to practical proportions. 

We have fallen terribly agreed to let an invisible government sift the data. And HighSpot the outstanding issue so that our field of choice shall be narrowed to practical proportions. Did you voluntarily agree to that if by voluntarily agree, you mean that we haven't started riding and killing people then yes, we voluntarily agreed. 

It's tough because I mean, you've got to ask yourself the question, do you really want to know? Do you really want to know what's happening? Because you can, that information will not be denied to you. If you search for it, you can find it. But once you know it, you can't unknow it. It's a look, it's an honest question. Do you really want to know what's happening? 

I hope you choose. Yes. I mean, I understand if you don't want to, I understand if you want still the blinders on and say, look, I can take care of myself or you want to, can't worry about that. I think we're about my family. I get it. Like, I think like that sometimes as well, but on some level, if you don't do it, then who will at least on some level, okay, you have to influence the people around you to do it is the right thing, right? 

If, if, if I can help somebody younger than me, who's going to be in a position of authority later in life. I'm ethically and morally obligated to do that. Even if I get super pissed at those people, if I get super mad at someone, rather than flying off the handle and just using your ability to lecture or using your ability to make people feel like shit, we know that's not why you have the ability, your ability. 

You should be to point out to that person like, okay, I see why you're doing this. Let me tell you why it's wrong to do that in the long run. Let me explain to you that, you know, what was explained to me and what I want to, I try to, I try to give back this point because it was taught to me and it fundamentally changed the way I think. And that is, but you do sometimes you do all the time. 

No. When I was young, right? I learned at an early age, you know, the first fight I got into, I was like in fourth grade and his kid just beat that the hell out of me, you know, I'm not a big, I'm not a big guy. And I never forget my, my, you know, we'd go to the principal's office. I get the referral and my dad has to come pick me up. My dad's like, what happened? I'm like I got in a fight. 

No, my dad's in, did you win? I'm like, Nope, that was it for awhile. My dad taught me to read and my dad, my dad did some cool shit. Initially that was his answer. I go home, talk to my mom. What happened? Same question. What happened to her? Oh, I got to fight. My mom knows I didn't win. She's got a black eye. 

You know what I mean? Like my mom, my mom knows, but here's what, here's my mom's advice. She goes, you know what, George, you are a very intelligent little boy and you are younger than everybody in your school. You should, you should be. You shouldn't be in that grade. You should be one grade lower. And so you have an issue where you cannot fight boys that are bigger than you. 

You need to learn how to fight with your words. And if you can't learn to fight with your word, then you probably deserve to get beat up. So from now on George, I want you to learn how to out-think people. I want you to use your words to win the Wars you want. And I never forgot that. I never forgot it. It was just this aha moment. And the reason I went to that story is because what you do, sometimes you do all the time. 

And if you get really good at arguing, if you get really good at using these logical fallacies or whatever technique it is that you use to win in your daily argumentation, it becomes a habit. If you become really good at finding people's weak points and exploiting those that may help you in the workplace, it may help you in society, but it doesn't help you in your relationships. It doesn't make you a good husband. 

Does it make you a good father? In fact, it does the opposite of that. So you have to be really, really careful in your relationships, all of them. And as a young man, as a young woman, it's so hard to find your way. It's so hard to be a mentor. It's so hard to be in a position where you want to help people, but the people don't want your help. It's so hard to be in that authority position where one person is telling you to do this, another person telling you to do that. 

And it's easier to just dictate to people, Hey, do this because of that. And the person talks back to you and then you just crush them because you know something about on Nick and hurt him. She's effective, but it's wrong because that strategy bleeds into your relationships at home. And all of a sudden you use that technique with your wife. You use it with your kids. Next thing you know, you're divorced. Your kid hates you because you've relied on this strategy to be little people. 

You've relied on a strategy of success in the workplace that doesn't translate, translate to the home place. And it's, it's hard to not use a strategy that works. You must consciously think about the strategies you're using, especially in any sort of verbal environment, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. 

And so for guys, my age, you know, getting back to the passing of the torch of power, it's important to me to take, to take the people that are going to be leading the show next and show them a different point of view. And I have faith in the younger generation that they will see that, or at least it is my illusion that they will truly understand that the path of history led us to where we are today. 

Right? So you don't want to go back to normal. Going back to normal means going back to the same problems we had, we're currently at a juncture w going to norm, going back to normal would be like turning around and going back, we've got to blaze a new trail. Hey, guess what? That pathway was. It got us here. This is a fucking shitty place. Some parts of it are awesome. Some parts of the trail were cool, but the path that got us here, if we went back on that path, that would lead us backwards. 

So it's important that if you're in a position where you can help people younger than you see things different, you're obligated to, don't be a Dick to the younger kids trying to run shit. They're trying, don't commit the mistakes that people committed to you. I know guys, my age, that they got burned by people older than them. 

Let's not repeat that cycle. And if we don't repeat that cycle, if we help the people that are going to be in positions of authority, if we help out the younger generation, then I believe we're shaping them to help out the people under them. It's important that we, some people see things the way they are and say why we should see things the way they've never been in. 

Say, why not? I love you guys dammit. And I'm going to continue banging the drum of social engineering so that we can use these tools to socially engineer, a better environment instead of socially engineering and environment for a small number of people to succeed. Again. I love you guys. Hello? Happy Thursday. 

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