Speaker 0 (0s): All right, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the TrueLife podcast. With hot mic. We are going to get into some pretty good topics today. You guys all know me today. We're going to do something a little special. Mike's going to, he's got some information for us. I got a few things. And before we get started, I'm going to go ahead and do the beginning of our live event that we practiced here. I got a, a home COVID test here. Did you guys can see it's. It is just a basically when you buy at the store and we're going to open up the swab here and we are going to swab this grapefruit and see if we can get a positive on a COVID pest.

So here we go. We're opening it up. We're going to take our swamp. We're going to rub it four times on this grapefruit, you know, in the beginning of the pandemic, I think it was a few countries that actually did this. They were, they were serving the COVID PCR tests and trying to get a feel for if COVID was raping their country. And a few people, actually, one guy did a goat. One guy did a papaya and a couple of them came back positive. So yeah,

Speaker 1 (1m 17s): Here we go. I remember that.

Speaker 0 (1m 21s): Okay. So after the show, all that, you guys know the results here. Sweet. All right. So, Mike, what do you got for us today? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (1m 29s): Yeah. So I don't know if you've seen it, but there's a lot of people reporting these almost like these Purple Lights that are popping up all over now. They're typically in like parking lots or they're on the highway. And they're almost like if you would, like, if you went to a club and you know how, like they do the, the Purple Light to see if you have like the little, whatever, like the stamp on your, your, your hand or whatever, so that you can get in similar to that.

It's like an infrared type of like a, you know, whatever, like, just like if you went to a club or whatever. Yeah. Like a black light. Exactly. And it's, it's something that I've, I've been noticing a little bit and I've been kind of just like pushing it to the back, like, okay. Like, I'm just going to put that in the back of my head. And like, we'll just see where this goes and see what happens. And so the story is that there's a manufacturer's defect and that, you know, in an led you basically have red, green and blue, I believe are the three lights that you have in an led.

And they're saying that the green light goes out and that it's causing these lights from turn, like instead of white or yellow as a typical light wood, it's going to turn purple. And so these lights are turning purple and it's so funny because I went and like looked all over and this is everywhere in the United States. Every city, I found a different, a different story from a local news station. And they talk about how, you know, the same thing. It's the exact same story. And then it's a manufacturer's defect.

I found it in Topeka, Kansas, upstate, South Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina in Winnipeg, in Europe, in Manitoba and these different companies. So you have energy, energy, you have duke energy, you have Manitoba, hydro, all these different companies. And apparently they all must get their, their lights from the same manufacturer. So that's funny to me that every single company gets their lights from the same manufacturer and the same problems happening.

These lights are going out, the green LED's going out apparently, and it's causing it to turn purple. So I thought that was interesting. So my first thing was, if there's a manufacturer's defect and why do they continue to put these lights up? And if, if that's the case and they keep saying in these news articles that they're going to like locate, which ones are mad, or, you know, there's some type of defect in them and they're going to go out and they're going to fix them.

The problem is they haven't fixed them though. They just keep saying that they keep saying they're going to fix them and they continue to just leave them up. And so another thing that I found was interesting was, excuse me, these, these stories keep coming out. The latest I found was that late 20, 20, and early 2021. And ever since then, you know, we've, I've seen like March and August and November, December of 2021.

It's interesting to me, the timeline that these, these stories started to come out and how all of these lights keep popping up these, these Purple Lights and they're in like areas that you would, you know, almost like you would want these lights to be like they would be in a, in a location that you would want to check people for whatever it is you want to check right now we can, this is where we kind of like delve into why are they being created? Why, why do we have these Purple Lights that are popping up everywhere?

I have all these notes here and I'm trying, I don't want to just read from my notes, but I guess one of my questions is why are they only popping up in like streetlights? You know, if these are lights that are being used, why aren't they popping up in other products? Or, you know, is it, why is it only streetlights or why is it only, you know, on the highway or whatever that we're seeing these, these Purple Lights. And it's just crazy to me that they're, they're being, it's all over. It's not like it's just one city. It's not like, it's just, just the United States.

It's even like, I've seen it in Europe. Now I could have done more digging, maybe even in other countries just it's, you know, not just, not just United States, but it kind of leads us to, is this part of like the 5g, you know, is this, like, they have something in these vaccines and is it going to react with 5g? And what's before I kind of handed off to you, what I thought was interesting was the apps that the declaration of the pandemic was, I believe it was March 11th, 2020 is when they, they, they said that it was a pandemic.

If you take 666 days and you add it to that, it's January. I believe it's either January 5th or January 6th. And if I, if correct me if I'm wrong, but January 5th is the rollout of 5g. It's like the official declaration of the roll out of 5g. So I just thought like, it's, it's just super interesting to me that 666 days later is January 5th, 2022. And we're coming up on that. So I just, yeah, that's what I have.

Speaker 0 (7m 5s): Yeah. There's no way that's a coincidence, that's it it's if it's in as many states and other countries, that's, it's not a bug, it's a feature. Right. And, and I, we already know that, you know, you mentioned earlier that under the black light, you're able to see certain kinds of ink. There's tons of evidence and there's tons of technology out there. A lot of it having to do with the vaccines or the quantum dot or the shot or anything like that, where that will show up, you know, isn't it interesting that the lights are popping up in areas that could be used as checkpoints, like on ramps for, for cars or certain areas.

And I just have a, I have a difficult time believing in coincidence as I was always taught that when you have a coincidence, you don't have the whole story, right. A coincidence is a, is a sure sign that you're being lied to, or you don't have all the facts, a coincidence, what you get when you apply a bad theory. And there, there is tons of stuff. I mean, it could be, it could maybe I've read a little bit about some lights that are supposed to be disinfectants, you know, like they, they cleanse a virus or something like that, or, or they cleanse an area, however, you know, I can't help, but think of the moth that's drawn to the blue light, you know, just to meet its death like that.

And what do you think that maybe this has something to do with smart cities? What's your take on that?

Speaker 1 (8m 36s): Yeah, I do. And I know I've seen some, some pictures and some videos of, of guys that, you know, like the, that they go up and they're working on the lights and they, they pop open the light that shows that they've got like five G all over the, you know, all over the branding and man, you know, whatever. And it's interesting to me that even the prior, you know, the previous generations, like the 4g and the 3g, there's really not a whole lot of safety studies on, on this type of stuff. And I think that it's, it's, you know, it's even when, like, if you take like Trump and how he talked about six G and how he wants to compete with China and everything like that.

And that's really what I think it's coming down to is we're just trying to keep up with these other countries and we don't care about what it's going to do to the people. We just want to be, you know, equivalent to them with all of our technology. And that's, I think that's a big part of it. You know, there's, there's a lot of telecom agencies and regulatory agencies that, that like, like I said, they just don't have the safety policies. They don't, they haven't gone deep into the effects on the biological effects on humans and animals and what it's going to do to us.

And even with 5g, it's like, you've got to have a lot more towers and if it's gotta be, you know, at a higher level of frequency than the previous generation. So it's going to be interesting to see what kind of effect that has on, on people. So,

Speaker 0 (10m 14s): You know what, now that you say that I think it was Voltaire, who said, if you want to know who rules you find out who it is you're not allowed to talk about. And the same thing is true with like laws and stuff. And if you remember at the beginning of the pandemic, there was a huge surge in ideas that the sickness may be coming from 5g, but it was squashed. People were, people in Europe were tearing down towers and they put an immediate kibosh on that. And the hole from the conspiracy, people like myself and, and critical thinkers and people that aren't like that argument was moved neatly off the table.

So no one could talk about it and other arguments were brought on to it. You know, wouldn't it be something if, if in fact the whole ran Paul, Dr. Fowchee is this is this smokescreen. And it is 5g meeting. You know, maybe there is a chip or something in there, and maybe we are the antennas. Maybe that's the last thing they want people to talk about is that, Hey, you are, you know, cause I, I correct me if I'm wrong, you may know more about this, but the problem they were having with 5g is that it couldn't go through certain walls.

There's too many obstacles and you had to be within six feet, you know, in order for it to work. And so I wouldn't put it past these guys. In fact, there's a phenomenal book. It's not, it's not this one. It's right here. When this is called, when Google met Wiki leaks. And I would advise everybody get this book. It goes into depth about Schmidt sitting down with Juliana sons' prior to him being arrested. And it dovetails nice with Juliana.

Sonja's very last video that he made before he got in prison. And he was talking about smart dust and how we are going to be the receivers. And that particular type of technology is it's all over the internet. If you know where to look. And on top of that, I wanted to add one more little, one more little nugget on there. There was a scientist out of Harvard. I think I forgot. I want to say the Larimer lab, but I could be misspeaking there. However, he was caught at the lab in China and he was brought into public very quickly.

And then he was pushed off the table too. He was recently convicted his lab and Harvard also recently won the, what is that award people get for making weapons, but it's supposed to be the Nobel peace prize. So at the lab in Harvard, this particular guy won the Nobel peace prize. And if you go to the Harvard and you look up the labs there, this guy was working on implantable technology. And so I, I didn't even think about this avenue or even explored until you brought up the Purple Lights, but you know, why not?

Why, why can't it be 5g? Why can't this be the rollout of 5g to beat China and establish a new sort of commerce? And it would be benefiting everybody who's involved. That's trying to make money from it.

Speaker 1 (13m 8s): Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt that it's, you know, economically and socially that this 5g or whatever would, would benefit, you know, companies and they're, they're, they're bad on their bottom line. And, you know, making people have the faster connection and, you know, gaming will take off and all these things, but you know, it just, we don't know what it's going to do to people. Is it going to cause cancer? Is it, you know, is it going to cause you know, all kinds of health problems with, with animals and, you know, take, take out ecosystems and stuff like that?

My guess is probably it would, I, I mean, I would, I would think it would because there's evidence to show that even 3g can have negative effects. I mean, people have put plants and stuff next to, you know, 3g routers and stuff like that. And those plants have burned up and died. So to think that that's not going to happen to you, I mean, plants and animals are typically more resilient than humans are. So I mean, they can seem to take a lot more than weekends. So if, if it's taken out a plant, the longterm effects on the human, I think are going to be pretty, you know, pretty astounding.

So I mean, obviously we probably won't know that until years in the future, we already have like an increase in cancer and you know, all these other health problems. So I don't know.

Speaker 0 (14m 31s): Yeah. W I mean, it's, it's plausible that all the hospitalizations, it might even be more plausible to say that the hospitalizations you're seeing are from 5g rather than from COVID. I mean, what a, what a great way to divert attention from the experiment. Right. And it makes sense if you look at experiments, you know, we, we learned from the, you know, the Schrodinger's cat experiment, that just the very idea of observing something changes it.

And so the last thing that the people in charge would want us to do is to know the truth of the experiment everybody's against FA people are against, you know, human suffering, the same way they are against global warming. And if they knew it was 5g and they were dying from 5g, all the money that's been spent on infrastructure would be immediately shut off. Yeah,

Speaker 1 (15m 24s): I think that's another, another part of it is if you look at, from just from COVID the amount of money that's been put into the vaccines and the apps and the COVID passes and all this stuff, it's like, even if we let's just say in a perfect world, we, we found something that just completely eradicated COVID. Do we really think that COVID is going to disappear when all this money has been invested into the COVID pass and all this, this is, this is billions and billions of dollars that these companies just aren't going to allow to just disappear.

They need it now. Like they they're going to go bankrupt. If they, if, if this doesn't, if this goes away, like even the pharmaceutical companies it's, you know, th they need COVID to keep mutating and, and, and enforcing people to get their boosters and all this other stuff. So I don't think that this is something that is going to disappear. And that's the whole thing is they kept talking about how we just need to get to this point. You know, we just need to, we need to get over the curve and we need to, you know, everyone just needs to get their vaccine and it'll go away.

And now it's, we need to get our booster and it'll go away and we'll get back to normal. If everybody just gets vaccinated and gets their booster, but they keep adding to it. And it's, it's, it's never going to end it's. This is, they have the control. Now they realize what they have. They realize that they have the control over the people. They have the fear, they have the paranoia, and they're never going to let that go. They're never going to let it go. So,

Speaker 0 (16m 57s): Yeah, I agree. It seems that there's always an invisible boogeyman. If it's, you know, it's a, if it's communism, if it's terrorism, if it's, if it's, COVID, you know, it's always this invisible monster, but don't worry. Cause they have the answer and only they know and you can't question them. Yep. You know, I was doing some research on viruses and there's an interesting quote. I wanted to read you about the viruses here that I wrote down. It says, what is necessary for a virus to spread is contagion or a medium by which it can be transmitted in order for technocracy to take over the world stage.

It is also required to have a contagion by which entire societies and social systems could be successfully infected. And you could argue that technology is in fact the medium, which, which infects people, you know, it's. Yeah. It's, it's very interesting to me how similar this is, like the first virus that's spread by a computer it's spread by television. It's spread by word of mouth. It's spread by panic. And that's what keeps it alive. If you looked at like Drudge report or any of these people, you know, the headline conglomerates that all you see is panic.

And that is a form of a virus. It's like a mind virus. It's like, Hey, we're telling you what to think. Read, read this, be scared. Don't talk to your kids. Even if you look at the messaging from like Fowchee on TV, talking about it's okay for you to meet with your family. Like, we don't need that dummy to tell us when we can meet with our family. But it's amazing how many people listen to what that person says. Yeah. I, I, in some ways it makes me sad to think, right.

I, I really think that there's, there is a, of a, a sort of synthesis between, I think what COVID is, is a synthesis of money, science and technology. And it's a way to scare people into making changes that they would never make unless they were forced to. And I'm having a very difficult time finding the, the, you know, they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but I can't even see, can you see any good intentions?

Like why, what would be a good intention for them to do this in your opinion?

Speaker 1 (19m 23s): Honestly, I can't think of anything. I mean, I try to, like to go out on a limb and say like, you know, from my public health background, it's like in the military, you know, you see these movies, right? Like the zombie movies and stuff where like, there's some terrible contagion. And like, if it's spreading and you can somewhat understand if it was that serious, like it was Ebola or something that was really, really dangerous, really deadly, extremely painful that you could understand where they're coming from.

Like you need to quarantine and you need to do all these things. And I think I can somewhat get behind that. But the problem is from the get go, they've even admitted that it's a 99.7 or whatever the percentage is now of survival rate. And it's like, that's not scary. That's not scary at all. So I don't know why you're acting like this, and I don't understand why you're destroying your economy and you're destroying the mental health of, of your, your citizens and everything like that, for something that isn't deadly. And it's, you know, they want to talk about how, like, we'll show you just different stories of, of, of somebody in the hospital and how they, they just wish that they would have just gotten their vaccine and all this other stuff.

And it's like, but what about all the other people that, that, that aren't impacted by this? And like, why don't you show the other side of this, of the coin, where you have people that are their parents, you know, their, their marriages are falling apart. And they're the other people that killed themselves because they've lost contact with all other humans. And it's like, they're, they're so depressed. And they just, they just want everything to end and even had the elderly where they, you know, they, they just, they've given up. They've, they're already in like, you know, older folks homes and they're there, it's already, you know, a depressing environment.

And then you take tell them that they can't leave their, like their homes or their, you know, their rooms or whatever. And it's like, they basically give up and they just, they just want to die. And, you know, you don't show that side of it. You only show the side of that, about that person. That's, you know, really sick or whatever that, you know, at the same time, you have people that are, that have the flu. And like, they, they, they get really, really sick too. And you don't sit there and try to propaganda propagandize the flu. It's just, so it's just sad. It's a sad state of affairs that we're in.

You know, it's interesting that I was just talking to my dad and he, up until, I don't know how long ago it was very recently, he, he wasn't vaccinated and he, you know, he hadn't gotten it at all. He was fine. He, you know, we w we were almost two years into this and he even said that he's like, you know, I went this whole time and I never got COVID. I never got sick and I was fine. And then he apparently went out and got his shots. And I was like, you know, Y Y you just got done telling me that you hadn't had any issues with COVID and he couldn't tell me, he just like, you know, I just, I don't know, I'm getting up there in age and blah, blah, blah.

And I just thought that, you know, I really should get it, not just like my heart sank, you know? Cause like you don't want your family members to get this type of stuff, you know, what's potentially in it and what it can do to them. And it just kept saying how, you know, he's, he's fine. You know, he he's got it a week or two ago and you know, hasn't had any issues. I'm like, well, how do you know what what's going to happen in a month from now? How do you know what's going to happen in a year from now? You know, you just got done telling me that you were completely fine, that you hadn't had any issues with it. So why would you go out and get it? You know, he just, he just couldn't give me the answer.

And it was just like, I, I feel like this is what's happening to a lot of people is they just keep watching the news. They keep hearing the fear and then they, they cave. Like they think that they're doing the socially right thing. Like they they're doing their part to, to stop the spread. And it's like, you're not doing anything. You're, you're just putting yourself at risk. And it's, it's just sad, you know, just really sad

Speaker 0 (23m 17s): It is. And it's like, I could, I could understand why, like the last three last, last, maybe month and a half ever since Omnichron came out, it started off as nothing. But then they just ratcheted up the fear to like a hundred percent. Yeah. Maybe 500%. And it's, if you understand the idea of social conditioning and you understand, it's like, if I show you a magic trick, it's pretty cool. But then if I show you how to do that magic trick, you don't ever want to see it again. Cause I got the dungeon trick. I know how to do it. Yeah. So if you can, if you understand that television and that the majority of media is, it's a show, it's a TV program.

It's just there for entertainment. You know, besides entertainment is there to push ideas on you. And it makes me so upset and so sad that there's people in positions of authority that are preying on the weakest among us. And I, I did the same thing. I tried to rack my brain and ask myself, okay, let's say that there's really, really smart people in positions of authority. Like why would they want to do this? My friend earnest just called it a Omni cold. You know what I heard? Let me just, I heard it was called that if you change those letters, you can spell moronic for entrepreneurs too.

You know what I mean? Exactly. And so, so I was trying to think of like, what could there possibly be some, some good intentions. And the only one I could kind of come up with was like, you know what, potentially the long-term ramifications for RNA or, or even the DNA, new types of treatments, it could theoretically cure you from all diseases. Like that's a possibility, but the ethical attempt to just flat out, test it on everybody like that.

That's a, that's a crime against humanity to just start testing it, you know, unless, and then I started that made me start thinking like, well, you know, what, if we truly are in an, whether it's inflation or deflation, if we're headed towards a collapse, you know, we already saw in 2008, we saw the big banks and the insurance companies fail so that if we never fixed that, and we're in a similar situation, the insurance companies have no way of paying out all the claims. They can't pay out the annuities, they can't pay out the debt.

They can't pay out any of that. And so, you know, just, just like general motors or just like these big companies, they do a cost benefit analysis. Whether they should recall something or not recall something can, we can have X amount of deaths, as long as we don't have this many, you got to think that the big corporations and insurance companies have that same thing. And so they probably thought we can test this on this many rest homes. We can have this many people die and we're going to just do this live experiment and see how pissed off the people get. And we'll know when to pull it back, you know?

And like, that's his, that's his, that's his, I don't think that's a good intention, but I, I could see that being one of the things they're trying to roll out on people. Now, if that's one of the areas I went down thinking about it, but that's all I could really come up with, you know? But, but once you brought up the Purple Lights, that's a whole another avenue. I mean, I, another issue I was thinking about today was I'm sure everybody here is familiar with the book confessions of an economic Hitman.

If you're not, if anybody's not familiar with that book, you guys should check out it's by John Perkins. And he was a, an agent for like the, for the IMF or the world bank. And what he would do is he would go to third world countries and offer a loan to these countries. That was a crazy interest rate. Think about like a payday loan. That's kind of what he was doing there. And he would offer them terms that they get never pay back. And when they couldn't pay it back, you would go down and say, look, I know you can't pay this back. Why don't you sell us your resources? Why don't you give us this dam? And they would privatize stuff that way.

And so, as I was thinking about that, and I re-read some of that book today, I went on the world debt clock. You guys can look up the national debt clock by state, by state. And some of them, the states that I looked at were New York, California, Oregon, a lot of the states where they're rolling out this stuff really hardcore. And those states are like 20% debt to GDP ratio. Those, some of those, all those ones I named are over $10,000 in debt per citizen there.

And if you think about it from that angle, these states may, maybe they're in some sort of an economic Hitman situation where, where there's, you know, this whole talk about public private partnerships. Like maybe these private companies are coming and saying, look, we're going to pay off your debt, but we're going to, we want some, we want these, we want this area to build a port. We want this housing structure for this. We want to put in these lights here. We're going to pay off all your debt. Don't worry, but we need to buy this stuff for this price. We also want to put a factory here. We're going to do your infrastructure.

And that would dovetail nice with the whole build back, better public private partnership. You know? And if you, if you just pan out and you look at the whole thing from like 10,000 feet, it looks like a pretty neat plan that, okay, these people need money. No problem. We're going to go in there. We're gonna, you know, we're gonna acquire the real estate. We're going to get it up pennies at the dollar. Yeah. One people are gonna die, but you know, it's nothing in America. We look at this like a tragedy, but this happens all over the world all the time. It's just that it's happening here now, which brings me to one, one other point that like, I remember hearing an unbelievable interview with who was the guy that the, the oil guy who shot his buddy in the face, Dick Cheney, that's him.

He, he had an interview. He had an interview one time and they asked him, Hey, when are we going back from? It was him and Don Rumsfeld. And they were asking him, Hey, what did we come back to my rack? And he's like, we're never coming back from there because you guys don't get it. If we leave there, all that comes here. And that just stayed with me for so long. Like what, what are they talking about? That comes here? Well, now I think we're getting a cat. We're catching a glimpse of it. Like maybe he means the hollowing out of the infrastructure. Maybe he means the privatization of your country.

Maybe he means the complete dismantling of your economy. Maybe what he meant is that, Hey, we're over there doing the dismantling. If we stopped doing it, someone else is going to do, and they're going to do it here. I mean, you can make a case for that now. What do you, what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (29m 28s): Yeah. I mean, I think that's, that's exactly what's happening. I mean, it seems like we're, you know, we were like the superpower and we had everything going. Right. And you know, you had other countries like Russia and China that were kind of like third world almost. And then they, they seem to, they change things. Like they, you know, I, I don't know enough about it to go into detail, but I just know that whatever they were doing, it seems like they now they're now they're our super power.

They have a lot of, of, you know, natural resources that they're th they're like hoarding and that they have these abilities to, to basically push us, you know, in the military. And it's like, almost like we realize, like now they're like, like we're right here. And you know, they're right next to us. And now they're starting to get a little bit stronger and we're like, oh, well maybe we should start doing what they do. And like, maybe we should start like throwing in a social credit score. Maybe we should, you know, start like threatening our citizens.

Like if they don't, if they do certain things that we're going to call them a terrorist and we're going to throw them in jail, or we're going to, you know, whatever, it's like, it's like, we're becoming, you know, communist almost. And I think that's kind of what's happening is we're starting to switch from, you know, being a Republic and, you know, a democracy to more of a, of a dictatorship. And I don't know if you saw it. I don't know if you saw the white house, his message for the, for the Christmas, basically. Like, you know, thank you if you got your vaccine, but for those of you that haven't, it's going to be a dark, you know, there's going to be a lot of death and stuff like that.

And I was like, well, that sounds like a threat. Like, it's almost like, you know, if you haven't got your vaccine, like you're going to die. Like, and they're just like, that was kind of grim. Like, is that something that the white house should be talking about? Like, is that something that the white guys should be saying? And so that was kind of weird. I was just, I'm never, like, I wake up every day and I see some of the headlines that I'm like, it doesn't surprise me anymore. Like just the Fest, the stuff that they say. And I don't know, it's a, we're going though to a dark time.

I think that, you know, things are going to continue to get worse and worse and worse. And it does nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing surprises me what they say and what they do. Yeah. So,

Speaker 0 (31m 52s): Yeah, I agree. I, you know, it you're right. So did your dad get the vaccine after that president's address or before

Speaker 1 (31m 59s): I with, I think it was after, and I know that he's, he's a super big Trump supporter. Like he, he hates Biden, so it wasn't something like, you know, he like likes Biden and he was like, oh, well, he's just, he's telling the truth. Like it was, I just think that he watches too much of the news and, you know, it's wild. I have also a cousin that they're very, like, they just kind of do whatever like society says is like, right. Like, so like they got their kid, I don't know what, how old he is. I would say he's probably maybe around 10 or 12.

He's one of my cousins. And he, they just gave him the vaccine and he just got COVID. And so they going to have Christmas at their place. And because he got COVID, they, they canceled everything. And so nobody like, they didn't all meet up for Christmas. So it was just weird to me that, you know, he got the COVID vaccine and then all of a sudden he got, he got really sick with COVID and it's just, yeah, it's just sad. You know, like, I, I can't, I don't understand why anybody would, I can, I somewhat understand, like, if you're, you know, older, you know, 60 plus or something, and you're just really worried about getting sick and you've listened to too much of the, of the propaganda and you want to get it, but like to get a kid this like that, you know, has their whole future ahead of them, their whole life ahead of them.

And it's just wild to me that you would, you know, even, even risk that.

Speaker 0 (33m 27s): Yeah. I agree. I don't, I don't understand, like, you know, I wish I had the, had done the work to put up the result of here's what happened two years ago with the flu and here's what's happening now. I bet you they're just completely congruent. Yeah. You know, and I, one, one thing we can do is we can look at what, you know, what is COVID doing is it, let's just put the hospital stuff aside, like, let's look at the social implications of what it's doing. It's definitely destroying families.

It's causing brother against brother. And it is destroying education. I read an article the other day that said kids between kindergarten and fifth grade are 25% scoring, 25% lower than they would two years ago, as well as an incredible amount of behavior problems and mental health problems. And it's destroying holidays. It seems like there's always a flare up during a traditional holiday, which coincides also with destroying statues and, and freedom. You know, it's just, it just seems like I said, if you could just step back and look at these things happening, it's a perfect excuse to destroy or, or like a controlled demolition of an economy.

Like you have to have something there in order to make these things happen. You have to have people afraid in order to control them. You have to have people afraid in order for them to listen to you. And I, you know, on the topic of Trump, he had a recent interview with Candace Owens that I think it's important to point out that he's going through a lot of issues as far as being, you know, who knows how much stuff is coming down his neck and how I'm sure the guys got tons of skeletons in the closet that he doesn't want out there. But in that interview, all of a sudden he was like, oh, I got to get this thing, you know?

And it just seemed somewhat out of character. I mean, before, isn't it interesting that he was the guy that said we should do it in the beginning and, and buy it. And then I was like, no, don't get it. And then it's the same people in charge that are running. It doesn't matter if it's Trump or Biden, like the same people. It's still Fowchee there. It's still the NIH. It's still the same plan rolling out. Yeah. It's just a different ventriloquist dummy, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 (35m 34s): Yeah. That's something I, you know, so in 2016 I actually voted for Trump and about two years into his, his presidency, I kind of started to catch on like, okay, this guy is kind of full of it. Like, you know, I, I originally voted for him because it was like, he wasn't a career politician and it was kind of like a cog in the wheel type of thing. Let's just see, see what happens. Cause we know what we're gonna get with Hillary. We know what we're gonna get with Biden. We know who they are. And by no means, am I sitting here trying to touting, you know, a Democrat or Republican, but I really don't.

I don't, I think that the whole two-party system is a joke. And I think it's, as it's all about the, the circus and bread, you know, like where it just, they act like they hate each other. Like Trump says he wants to drain the swamp. He doesn't want to drain the swamp. He's with he's in bed with all those people. And so it's just sad because you have a lot of people, like a lot of my family is really big Trump supporters and they really gave me a hard time. Like, why aren't you voting? Why aren't you, why aren't you going to support Trump? You can't let Biden into office. And it's like, I told them, I said, you know, it doesn't matter what you do.

It's not going to change anything. And we need to stop thinking that a person is going to come into office and that they're going to save our country. And they're going to just get us back on track because they're all in bed together. And when we start stop voting for Republican and Democrat and we start voting for, you know, whoever the best candidate is, then maybe we'll get somewhere. But even that, I don't think that that any one person is going to be able to fix. I think we're two globalists now. Like it's, the power has been taken from the United States and there's no one person that can fix what we're going through.

It's it's this is the, this is the road we're on. And there's no getting off of it at this point. So

Speaker 0 (37m 25s): Yeah, I was curious what you, let me ask you this. So it seems to me that, you know, I've read some of the Rockefeller operation lockstep stuff, and what they get into is basically world government or like a fascist world government taking over by corporations. And their main issue is that, Hey, there's too many regulations. You know, why would we try to do business in Europe? We to contact all these states and over here, it's just too much. Why, why do we need government coverage just gets in the way.

And that's a huge talking point from Republicans. And it, we a whipsaw, the rhino left together, but it seems to me what's being done is that government, which I don't agree with. A lot of them, most government, I got, I understand the need for it, but I don't agree with so much. And it seems to me that they are becoming the fall guy around the world and you're going to see the corporate takeover. Like it's, I'm sure that corporations pretty much run the show. Now they're writing the bills in Congress.

They have the lobbyist, but I think on some level, like, you know what, it's getting too expensive. We're paying for all these dumb influencers, you know, like let's just get rid of them and then we'll do the public private and we'll just take the mask off and show everybody. And so I, I find myself pushing back against a lot of people that tell me, oh, it's, government's the problem. And yet it is, but let's not forget that. I think it was John Dewey who said, government is the shadow cast upon people by business? Is business going to be any better of a governor? Yeah, I don't, I don't know how to square that.

Mike. I, I, I, I work for a multinational and those guys look at me like I'm a number, the same way that all multinationals look at people like numbers and the same way the government looks at people like numbers. And so I, I'm not sure on that thesis there of, of, you know, is it, would it, would we be better without government or would we be in more trouble because we'd be owned by a corporation? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (39m 20s): I think that's a, it's a great question. And I don't really have the answer other than I think that you were kind of damned if we do damned if we don't it's I've I've, I've asked myself that same question. You know, I think that the government is the cause of our problems. They want to have, they want to tell you they have the answers, but because they caused the problem to begin with, but would it be any better if it was just corporate, you know, like, you know, if it was dog eat dog, you know, every man for themselves type of thing, would, would that be any better? I don't know.

I think that when you talk about business, I don't think that I don't think that it would be any better because I think that, you know, it would be like the strong, only the strong survive and you'd still have, I think your Amazon's and everything like that. And they would just eat up all the other smaller companies. So I don't know. I, I think that the, the problem is the human condition. I think that, you know, we, we just, everyone, it's a me first attitude. They wanna, you know, nobody really cares about the other person.

Like we have friends and it's like, you know, that's really sad that that happens because something bad happens, but it's like, does it really bother you? Like, are you going to lose sleep over the fact that like, that your buddy's friend like got cancer? Like, that's it, I don't think that we care enough about each other. And I think that's part of the problem. I think that if people cared more about each other and we, you know, we were more relying on each other that, you know, the world would be a better place, but I don't know if we're ever going to get to that point. So I it's, it's funny.

It's,

Speaker 0 (40m 54s): That's a great point.

Speaker 1 (40m 55s): Yeah. And I don't, I don't, so I don't know exactly what the chapter is, but I know that somewhere in the Bible that basically, I think it's revelation that it states that, you know, in the end, that man would basically like brother would turn against brother and, you know, neighbor against neighbor and stuff like that. And it just seems like that's kind of where we're at right now. Like everybody just doesn't really care about the other person. It's just, everybody's thinking about themselves and you know, their own, their own hide, I guess you could say.

Speaker 0 (41m 28s): Yeah. It's, it's fascinating to bring that up. Like I've, I've been it's so how you can interpret the Bible and the information in there, and regardless of what anybody thinks, it's a, it's a phenomenal book and there's so much you can get out of there, man. I, I didn't realize it until I got a little bit older, but it's just, it's beautiful in so many ways. And yeah, I was, I was reading a little bit about the tower of Babel and like, it made me start thinking, like, you could argue that the monetary system of the world is the tower of Babel and it brought all these languages together into the language of a monetary power.

And they, these people, like, if you, and you know, it's funny, if you look at the bank of international settlements, it kind of looks like the tower of Babel. Like it's all, it's built the same way. And it's just so fast. It's like, it's, it's like, it's filled with money changers. What did Jesus do get outta here? You know what I mean? And like, isn't it, isn't it, isn't it interesting that like, like a God or a miracle or some cataclysm had to come and destroy that thing. And the people had to be separated to be free. Again, it's almost like all this slave labor was just building this enormous machine for someone who wanted, or a group of people who wanted to be God, you know, and it's like, that's one way I've been interpreting it lately.

And I, on a quick side, tangent, like, you know, I've been rereading like some revelations to, or the, the book of the apocalypse, right? And like, I've been reading this one book it's called history fiction or science, and it gets into some of the astronomical, some of the astronomical dating, you know, what it tells about there was any, there was an eclipse when Jesus was crucified. And these, this particular book I'm reading talks about, you can tell what year it is because eclipses happen cyclically, you know, for forever and maybe not forever, I'm sure there's been planets changing around or whatever.

However, as I was reading this book, I began thinking that, you know, there's, there is a lot of nomenclature in different sacred books that talk about the constellation of the throne appears before the end of the world. And, and it led me to this thought that, you know, maybe, maybe what some people were telling us when they spoke about religion and looking at the stars, especially the Egyptians, they were telling us that the reason we have astronomical data and the reason we look at these constellations is because every now and then a cataclysm happens.

And as I began thinking about that, like I turned to my friend Plato and in Plato, there's a, there's a, there's a park called Thomas. And in, in that part of Timaeus, so lawn who is a Socrates's, I think it's like a great grandfather or something. He goes, and he meets the Egyptians and they're talking story a little bit. And he comes to ask the Egyptians, like, how is it that understanding of antiquity is so much greater than all of ours?

And this old Egyptian priest looks at so long, who is, you know, 23,000 years ago, this, this old Egyptian present it's written right there in somebody as it's written right there. And Plato, he says, oh, so Lon you Greeks are so young. You don't understand like your, your world, your Greeks, your whole society remembers only one flood. And we as Egypt, we remember all of them, it's written on our tunes. This vein, you have a myth about a, there's a Greek myth.

I think it's called Cedrus. And in the Phaedra's, it's the story about a gentleman or a young kid who's become a demigod. And he tries to ride her. He tries to ride his father's chariot into the sun, but he crashes and the whole world catches on fire. And so this priest says to so long, he says that myth is the story of a comet hitting the earth because every few thousand years there's a, like a warble in the celestial bodies that hits the planet.

And anyway, I know I fully went off tangent there, but like, it just makes me think like how so much admission in the Bible that can tell you, like what's happening and what's not yeah. How much more true that book is than TV is, or more how much more information we could get about our world rather than reading headlines and listening to the propaganda.

Speaker 1 (46m 1s): Yeah. I mean, I think even at the very, at the bare minimum, it's, it gives you like a historical context of, of a lot of things that happened. And even if people look at it as just a historical document that, you know, I think that there's a lot of use from it, you know, regardless if you're religious or not. It's interesting too, that we have a lot of the, I don't know if you've seen the, how, like our poles are shifting and how like they move like a football field every day or it's like every day or every week or something like that.

Yeah. So it's interesting. I dunno. I just think that, you know, within the next couple of years, I think that we're going to see a lot of changes. So

Speaker 0 (46m 43s): This is my daughter right here. Beautiful girl. Yeah. So this is my friend, Mike. Hello. Here's something to think about on the, on the pole shift, like, you know what no one talks about, what do you think the Mag-Net the migration of the magnetic north pole has on climate change? Someone talks about that, right? Yeah. Maybe the, you know, that that's huge, right? Like if you look at this map behind me and you can kind of see like, okay, we're all facing this way, but what, what if the magnetic north pole shifts, what 20 it's moving even faster.

If it shifts 20 degrees every year, that's fully going to change the way in which the, the energy hits the earth. It's going to change the climate. It's going to change. It's going to activate volcanoes. It's going to change the way we as people act with each other. And if you, if you pair that with what it says in the Bible, it's going to big brother against brother who's to say that the change in the magnetic polars can't shift the way we treat each other, you know, who's to say that that's not one of the horses that ride out, right. Yeah. And no.

Why, why not? Why not? I mean, it's totally plausible.

Speaker 1 (47m 51s): Yeah. I think that's exactly what it is. And that's kind of, you know, over the years, that's kind of like what you're saying, everything's cyclical and how, you know, we've had the flood and we had, you know, you have the dinosaurs and how they were wiped out. And it's like, you know, was that climate change too was, oh, but that's weird. There was no humans back then. So I don't know how that, you know, it's just, these things happen over years and years and years. And again, like if you have like pole flipping and stuff like that, that's going to completely turn everything upside down.

So that's going to change the temperature. It's going to melt the glaciers. It's going to increase the flooding. It's going to do all of these things. And it's just so convenient that they want to blame it on man. And they want to say like, oh, we'll just, we'll, we'll, we'll tax these companies and we'll make them buy carbon credits and we'll do all this stuff and make them, you know, make all this money off of climate change. But in reality, it wouldn't matter what we do to the earth. It's gonna, it's, it's gonna have these astronomical changes, you know, no matter what.

Speaker 0 (48m 51s): Yeah. Yeah. I, I read a stat one time that says a one volcano puts more CO2 into the air than mankind has since the industrialization of mankind. Yeah. Yep. You know, and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like Carlin said, it's a big club and we ain't in it. You know?

Speaker 1 (49m 12s): Exactly.

Speaker 0 (49m 16s): Yeah. It's fascinating. I, I was, I was, I did a little bit of research too on pretty much what we talked about, but I think it ties in nicely. And I was just, let me grab this other book that I had right here. What did I do with it? Let's see. So I don't know if you guys have read this one yet, but this is just by Edward Bernays. It's called propaganda. And I just wanted to read this first little intro right here. And I think it, it helped wake me up a little bit. And I, I think if people can understand this just first chapter, I think it's pretty telling, so let me go ahead and read this writer, the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.

Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government, which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed our minds, molded our tastes formed. Our ideas suggested largely by men. We have never heard of this is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner. If they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society, our invisible governors are in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet.

They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas. There are their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key positions, in a social structure, whatever attitude, one chooses toward this coordination, it remains a fact that an almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons.

A trifling fraction of our hundred and 20 million today would be 320 million who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pool the wires, which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world. That to me, is that has been going on since, you know, we've had Kings and Queens and, and not what the one thing that kind of gives me a little bit of hope.

It's, it's both magic and tragic. And what, what I think is happening is there were really, really smart people. And there still is today. However, there used to be the smartest people in the world controlled it. I think, you know, it seems to me that so the founding fathers were pretty intelligent people. It seemed to me that certain people, it used to be that scholars went to school. Not everybody scholars went to school. Yeah. And it seems to me what's happening in the world today is the same thing that happened in the Muslim faith.

And that was the division between Sunni's and she is right when Mohammad died, half, one group thought it should stay with the leadership should stay with the family. The second group thought, you know what? It should go on to the person who is the best suited to do it. And if you look at presidents, CEOs, wealthy families, you know you could use instead of the Muslim, if you could use Billy Madison, like it could have been the guy that should've ran the company. It could've been Billy Madison know the wealthy families, the John Kerry's of the world, the Hillary Clintons of the world, the trumps of the world.

They put their kids in charge. Instead of putting the person in charge has to be running stuff. If the person that was right for the job got the job, regardless of what they look like, regardless of their orientation, if the smartest best person got the job, we'd probably all be better off that. We're so, and here's the, here's kind of a kicker. I don't, I don't know what I would do if I owned a multi-billion dollar family office and I had a kid and I had a number two guy, you're going to give the job to, I guess that's something you could probably only face once you got there, but it seems to me to be one of the issues.

What do you think about that? Yeah,

Speaker 1 (53m 19s): That's tough. I don't know how I would do it. I just think that if it personally, if that was me, I think I would, I would of put them on an even keel where they're, you know, they have equal power, maybe not even equal power. Maybe the, like my kid, my son, or whatever would have, you know, like the second, you know, he'd be like the second empower or something like that. So I don't know. I, I personally think that whoever is the smartest, the best at what they do, they should be the one that, that runs it.

I don't think that, you know, she, you should get into, because at the end of the day, like, is that, is your kid or your son or your daughter, are they going to be any worse off? You know, if they're, you know, they're the second in command rather than the first, like they're still going to be well off. They're still gonna, you know, have plenty of money to do what they need to do. So I that's, my whole, my whole thing is I think that that's where even what's it called, you know, where they try to, I forget what they call it, where they try to equal opportunity with like the, the black and the Mexicans and all that.

And like, they don't want, you know, necessarily that the best person to get the job, they have to have a certain amount of people that they need to have of colored, you know, to set in their, in their workforce. I don't agree with that either because you're, you're basically saying that you're going to hire people just because of the color of their skin when they're maybe not even, you know, a good candidate to fill the job. So I just think that it should be whoever's the best performer, top performers should be the ones that paid. They're the ones that should run the company. They're the ones that should, you know, should be calling the shots.

Speaker 0 (54m 56s): Yeah. I agree what I was thinking too. Like, you know, we, we talked earlier about how people seem to not really care as much anymore and how they're were being divided and stuff. Do you think that that is a learned behavior? Or do you think that's like an innate behavior? I was trying to think about it myself. And it seems to me that it's the nature of money that makes people like that. Like, you know, when you get a bunch of kids together, they'll play tag or they'll solve their problems, but they don't.

I mean, maybe at a certain age, they start worrying about who's wearing the better shoes, but for a long time and they don't, they don't care. You know, it seems to me that the, the sickness that's passed down is probably, you know, the, the monetary system that causes the six, it's this idea of wanting to have more and judging yourself based on what you have versus who you are. And yeah, I, I mean, I don't know how to fix that, but it just seems like that that's part of the issue as well.

Speaker 1 (56m 0s): Yeah, I would agree. I would think that that's, that's all you see on the, on the television nowadays is, you know, the, the big, the big spenders and everything now on Netflix and Amazon is, you know, all about the, the, the wealthy and the rich, and you got 10 different shows about, you know, real estate agents and how much money they have. And so on, you know, multi-million dollar properties and how they have the nicest shoes and the nicest suits and all that stuff. And it's like, I personally, I'm the opposite.

I've never, I mean, like, you see, I've got like sweatshirt on. Like, I, I literally live in like sweat pants and like gym clothing. Like I don't, I have the don't get don't get me wrong. I can, I can go out and spend like a hundred dollars on a shirt if I wanted to, but that's not important to me. I don't care. Like I go to the gym and I have like holes in my shirts. And I have like, like deodorant stains on my shirts. And it's like, I don't care like that. I'm there to work out. I'm not there to look like a certain type of individual.

And that's what I think, like, if you go to the gym, you, you see people, they've got the nicest clothing on. Like, they, they think that if they have the, this bright neon shirt and it's like, they, everybody can see them. If that makes them like stronger, it makes them more fit, or it makes them more like suitable to be in the work in the gym. And it's like, it's a joke. I, you see how they work out and you see how and how they act. And it's like, you, you don't, you don't really get it to you. Cause that has nothing to do with, with who you are, you know, and who you are as a person. So I, I, I would say the opposite.

I would think like the person that that's not dressed very nicely, that's the guy that's, that's the person I'm going up to hang out with because I want the people that are humble, that, that know where they've came from compared to the person that just cares about what everybody else thinks and what they look like. So,

Speaker 0 (57m 52s): Yeah, I agree. It's, it's amazing. It's like, you know, that same guy that buys the flashy shirt to go to the gym is the same guy. That's probably listening to Fowchee. You know, it's the same person that's, doesn't have that barrier of like the BS detector or something like that. On a, on a, on a related note. I know these, I know these screenwriters that are brilliant and they wrote this beautiful movie. Their objective was to write a movie that would be like the new Christmas story. And they presented, they sold their script and they, they, they sent it off to like one of the greatest, I there's a middleman.

I forgot the person's name or their job, but it's the middleman that you sell to that then gives you the okay. To, to send it to, you know, Zemeckis or, or apple or whatever. The it's the middleman. And they send it to the middleman. And the middleman site now has garbage, man. You gotta have, like, it needs it's way to old fashioned. It needs to be, you know, there needs to be a lot of like tragedy and divorce and death. And my dad told me that, and I was like, that was such a beautiful story. You wrote at the pers the gatekeeper, the gatekeeper was like, no, it has to have this horrible stuff.

And I remember talking to him like, why would that person want that out there? Like you, you guys are writing this beautiful poetic piece of artwork that would inspire people. And they're like, well, it doesn't, it's not that it doesn't sell it's that the gatekeepers are making a conscious decision. What people see. And you start thinking about that in a long-term like people go to movies and they see it. Hey, it's okay to, to, to do this. It's okay to, to, to dress like this. It's okay. To, to be in an abusive relationship. It's okay to get rid of your kid.

It's all these things roll. Kaylee happens all the time on TV. No, that's like the, that's the very foundation of demoralization and it's the degradation of our society. And it's being pumped all over the airwaves for kids. Does he, Hey, look at this. You that's okay. Just do it. No, but there's people making a conscious decision to put that on air 24 hours a day to put on the iPads, to put it in kids' shows to put in YouTube channels. That's a conscious decision. People are making, they, you could choose something awesome or just something bad. And then they say, oh, well, that doesn't sell.

That sells just fine. It's just that they don't want that out there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (1h 0m 6s): I it's. It's interesting because, you know, prior to, we talk a little bit about the, you know, the flood and everything and how, you know, like God scattered the people and, you know, change their languages and everything like that. And it's, it's interesting before that happened. It was just immoral. Everything was immoral. People were doing things that they shouldn't be doing. They should be worshiping idols and all these different things that, you know, you really shouldn't be doing. And, and then the flood came and destroyed everything. And, you know, even in the Bible, it states that, you know, as in the days of Noah, it'll be again, you know, like in our current time.

And it's, it's interesting to see the state of our, of our society, how everything is. You have the parents that are up in arms about the transgender, you know, agenda, that's being pushed in the, in the porn. It's in the, you know, the, the library and everything. And they're pissed off about that. And they're being told by their government that they're terrorists, that you can't talk about. You can't threaten, you know, the school board and you know, how dare you, like, you know, how dare us as parents, like not to want our kids looking at that. You know, if they're 21, you know, 18, they move out of the house and they want to do that stuff.

That's completely up to them. You know, that's, they're their own people. They can do that. But when they're under my house and they, they, they, they're not going to be taught that type of stuff. And that was interesting. I even had this conversation with my wife today. We were, she watches a lot of different shows on Netflix, just, you know, just the stuff to keep her busy, you know? And there's a lot of this, every single and I'm not talking like a lot, I'm talking, everything is, and again, I'm not against, if you want to be gay, you want to be transgender or whatever, that's your, that's your business. But it's almost like everything now is everyone's gay.

Everyone's, you know, transgender. That's cool. That's everybody, that's normal. That's what, that's what everybody does now. Like it's. And it's, if you look at it from don't even look at it from a religious standpoint, look at it from a societal standpoint, how are we going to continue as a society? If everyone's gay, if everybody is, if the girls want to be boys and boys want to be girls, how are we going to continue our population? And if that's the norm, the new normal, and it's almost like they want to destroy society, they want to bring everything down that, that has worked for this country for humanity.

They want bring it down and they want to usher in chaos. Like that. Just stuff that doesn't work. It just doesn't work. Whether if you're gay, it doesn't work. You can't procreate with another man. Like, it just doesn't happen that way. So sorry. Hashtag science. I mean, I don't know what else to say. Like, It's just, it's sad. It's just sad to see the state of everything in the world. Like, it's just, they're just trying to destroy everything from the economy to, to the family, to the society.

It's just, it's all being brought down.

Speaker 0 (1h 2m 59s): Yeah. It's, it's interesting. How lane, if you, if you think of, you know, content on TV, whether it's alternative lifestyles or, or being gay or, or transgender or, or COVID, you know, they're all, it's all marketing, they're marketing it to people like they're selling as a cool thing, that they're all ideas and they're selling them to you, you know, and it costs money to do it. And it's, it's, it is. If you look at I've, I've read some interesting articles about social engineering and it talks about how young kids don't pay any taxes.

And they're very expensive until they're 18. And that's one reason why we have immigration is because you could bring people in that are working age and they automatically start paying taxes. You know? So if the less children people have, you know, if you have a child and one person would, it's nice to have one person to stay home. It's nice to have one parent there at least, you know, it's nice to be able to have one person, make an income, pay the bills, and you can still have a family, but that's not very good economic behavior. If you're the state, they want both people working.

They don't want you being at home. The system we have in the us, it went from being a, a nuclear family. And when I moved to Hawaii, I learned this. I was, I lived on my own at 17. And it was like, if you wanted to get out and, and find a girlfriend, it started life. Like there was, Hey, get it. We live with your parents. You big, oh my God, what a loser you are, you know, it's like a social pressure. And, and, and, oh, what kind of car do you have? And obviously I grew up in Southern California. So that's probably one reason it was so distinct.

But then I remember seeing my friends that I live with their parents and like looking down on them, like it was getting worse, what a loser. But then when I moved to Hawaiian, like I saw this different structure. I saw like grandparents that live with their kids and those kids had kids. And at first I still ha I still carry those stupid stereotypes of like, oh, they're probably just lazy or something. But then the more, the more I got to live here, and the more I got to see, the more I realized how dumb I was and how stupid I am for believing that, like, it's so much better. There's definitely some maybe drawbacks or whatever.

But the amount of knowledge a grandparent has, is vastly superior to a young couple with a child. Yeah. It's such a better family unit. When a child can go to his parents and his grandparents and have four sources of information coming in, or the parents can get a day off and here, we're going to go away for the weekend. Mom, dad, can you please take care of them? And they're happy to do it. You know, it's like, and it just creates this unit where like, okay, the grandparents retire, maybe you have like a granny flat. The, the dad can go to work and the grandma's maybe cook some food.

The wife takes care of the kids and grandpa does the yard, you know, but the way we work as a team, you know, or, or it could, maybe the woman goes to work and the dad takes care of the kids, whatever. Yeah. But it's such a better unit that creates better people and stronger and smarter and more confident. And what happened in the west is we completely eroded that. It went from, it went from that to, okay. Grandparents go to an old folks, home, mom and dad go to work. Kids goes to BayCare and like, it just radically fundamentally destroyed the family. And it seems to me that that's, that push is being just, they're shutting it, push that even further where like, don't even have kids now just pick one of these lifestyles or, or do this, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's tragic to me.

It's tragic to me, but let's what, what, how can we wrap this thing up on a positive note, Mike, what do you got on, what do you got on the horizon that you're looking forward to man,

Speaker 1 (1h 6m 35s): For me, I definitely I'm going to be going back to school actually like January 10th. So I'm, I'm, I'm really, you know, it's funny. I, I never would, what a million years thought that I would have finished my bachelor's and my master's and everything. And I've always said that I hate school, but I, I think that knowledge is power and, you know, it's, for me, I'm blessed to have, you know, I have my GI bill from going to school or from going to the military and I have about a year and a half left.

So I'm going to try and finish it up and get maybe another degree. So for me, I'm excited to start a new chapter. I've completely like, it's interesting that we've talked about, like how, like the society has changed and how you were saying how like one person goes to work and the other person takes care of the family. And my family is completely like, it's, it's nothing like, I think everybody else in America is where it's like right now, my wife and I both aren't working, we're both about to go back to school and it's, it's nice that we're able to kind of double team being a parent and taking on, you know, our son that's autistic and it's, it's, there's obviously down, there's downsides to it.

You know, there's, I would love to be able to go back to work and get out of the house and do stuff like that. But at the same time, it's, it's something that I think that my son, when he grows up, he's gonna really appreciate that we were there. And we were always around for all of his, you know, all of the different things that he learns and, you know, gets better at. And, you know, one of his first words when he finally starts to talk and all that stuff, and I think he's going to appreciate the fact that we were always around and kind of, you know, his best friend. So for me, that's something that's, I'm looking forward to.

It was just more learning. I love that you read a lot of books. I bet something I really want to get more into. I used to be a big reader, but kind of just dropped off and just stopped. But that's something I really want to get back into is reading some books. So I'm probably going to take some of your recommendations and start reading some of those books. Cause I think that a lot of the ones that you shared are very interesting. I think that I would really enjoy those. So just learning, getting smarter and just being more of a positive influence on the world, that's something that I'm trying to get a lot better at.

So I, I said before that I'm kind of a pessimist, so I really don't want to be that person anymore. I want to, I kind of want to be a more of an optimist than I could definitely say. Like, I feel like you're a very optimistic person, so it's very, I think you're a positive influence. I think this is a great podcast and I'm just really blessed and appreciative that you have me on here. So

Speaker 0 (1h 9m 10s): Yeah. Well, you know what, I think you're setting a good example. I, one of the biggest fears, I think people have that go to work and like, if, if both parents are working, I gotta, I know both me and my wife working. One of our biggest fears is like, what w what kind of parents are we, what are we doing? What's really important. And, you know, you can make the argument. The grass is always greener, but, you know, I, I think that first off, it's not easy to be married and have kids, but it's rewarding.

And a lot of people can't do it. But if you, if you, if you, if you marry the right person and you, and you're in love, then love never fails. And you find a way to do it because that kid didn't ask to be here. You know, that's, that's their life now. And I think you're setting an amazing example by being there for your kids and finding out information. And did I, I admire your ability to, to check to drag down these stories, man. I was looking forward to it ever since we spoke about it earlier in the week. And I agree, and, and since you love reading books is a beautiful segue.

I just finished my first book and it's off to an editor right now. It's called the structure of experience and it'll be coming out hopefully 2 20, 2, 22. And, you know, we'll, we'll, we're going to do like a little release party and stuff like that. So, but yeah, I'll send you the Dropbox also to everybody, everybody watching, I'm going to put a book in the link for you guys to check out and listen to you for free. And I just wanna say thanks to Mike, check out his channel and we'll be out here next Sunday, maybe with another guest and, and trying to break down today's stories.

So you guys can be entertained and, and maybe learn a little something or talk a little smack or whatever you guys do. So thank you everybody for tuning in. And I will see you guys next Sunday, right? Okay.