Speaker 1 (0s): Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the true life podcast. We are here with special guests. Johnny's bed more. He's got all his links below. He is an investigative journalist, a musician and an all around cool guy. He's got an incredible style of journalism that I think invites the reader to do a little bit of homework, but also to learn about the behavior of individuals as well as institutions are setting it up. Johnny Fennemore, tell us a little bit about yourself and where do you want to take this bad boy to?

Speaker 2 (35s): Yeah, well, I don't know. We've we've only just met George and I'm afraid of taking off my clothes in public and telling me, you know, I love talking. Hello, everybody who's watching and listening. I'm I was never meant to do this journalism. Like I was never meant to be going down this path. Obviously I'm here now and obviously I'm doing it now. Now it seems like I meant to. But when I was, when I was younger, you know, I was brought up in the valleys near the valleys, Cardiff, like the bottom of, of software.

My mum was a valley girl, really punky clean, basically the valleys it's south Wales in Wales is a very particular country. You know, it's, it's not given, it's not known around the world, quite the politics of the UK and how it works. But Wales is an ancient country with an ancient people in, and it sits next door to England, the land mass itself, eh, it comes from the Appalachian trail that that area of land in the world when the different continents were formed and et cetera, whales came loose from what would eventually become this long Appalachian trail would, would, would drift across the Atlantic and hit onto the side of this other completely like different stones, different rocks.

You know, it makes it a very, it's always had like a mystical fantastical quality about it. It's a land of song is a land of, of love everybody. When you grow up, you, I mean, when I was growing up, I, when I was about 8, 7, 16, 17, I first started hearing people complaining when you call them love. Cause you say, hello, love how are you? And I know in other countries that something that, that is maybe weird, but culturally in Wales, we're all about that.

We're always talked to each other on a level of love, halo, how's it going? Oh, it's brilliant. See, you love our God a back. We say back as well, you know, and, and lots of different things. Cardiac had his loving Welsh, how to cut out. How are you? You know, it's the natural way of seeing a lot of what wealthy people all around the country. It's like, it's such a specific country. It's a unique place. It's, it's like five ancient tribes. If you look at the genetic map of Wales, it's like south Wales and you've got south Pembrokeshire north Pembrokeshire, north Wales, and the borderlines of marshal lands that link with England, they're all ancient, separate ancient tribes of Britain.

They're all got a different, literally a different genealogy than the Anglo-Saxons. And the Normans that came up, who really still populate mainly the Southeast of England going quite far up. But then Britain is full of this. It's full of these ancient cultures and stuff. And I being well, you get you, you really, you really don't get involved in a lot of the politics. You know, we were ruled for many years in our country was annexed.

Officially. The official annexation of Wales happened in 15 hundreds. I believe it was under Henry. The eighth. Of course, the fact king was like, okay, we officially, w w we're making you us now. And as the new together, we're combining us. Now, you're going to rule yourself, honest with your little, but we'll just be on the side and we'll stick our, to the colors on your flag. So the, the, the, if anybody's seen the dragon of Wales, the flag of Wales, you've got green and white behind it.

And those are the two, the colors in actual fact, Henry, the ex father, I think it was maybe it was his grandpa. I know, was his father who came in and, and kind of came from Wales. He was one of the printers of west Wales, but he wasn't actually, well, she knows none of these guys were actually, well, she walked from Norman ancestry. Then up north in Britain, you've got loads of different. You've got like eight different tribes of the north who weren't completely different, completely separate from SACS and origin from Scandinavian origin. And then up in Scotland, you got two different tribes that are completely separate from each other in a very much, very many ways.

It's a really complex country. It's a country that people don't understand. And I wanted to just make music. I wanted to live free. I wanted to do all the things that a normal, everyday Welsh man desires in the world, but everything, all in all the music business became industrialized. All of the, the expensive properties in the city centers got taken over by big business. They started to build flats upon everything closed down, all the music venues, one by one, getting rid of any sign of culture and the life coming out from a city center that used to be so vibrant as cardiac CT center, that the capital of Wales you used to walk through.

Carlos, it's a beautiful, so really strangely there's a massive castle right in the center like, you know, is it's it's and it's a really beautiful castle inside. It was a redone by a guy called the marquee of YouTube, basically own loads of stuff in Cardiff and handed it over to the people and set wrote in the contracts that basically anytime the government tries or police or anything like that, they've got police stations of doses of anytime these businesses and these and the prices and the land is used for it. And the builders that use for any time, they tried to change it to anything private, and it's not for the public.

It reverts instantly back to the people and they can no longer use it. So we've got like a real special, like our aristocracy knew that the English word hacking us all the time. I mean, it took away our land, which we used to hang around, speaking well from the street corners. If you get caught, then you get Stan started outside with, with a big plank of wood round. You and you'd have to walk round to show everybody you were shamefully speaking your own language in your own country. We've got a history, a really deep history of being complete in a slaves for the English masters to have in a values community that lives sits just above me.

Most of my friends and loved ones, I've somehow got relationships with the valleys or from the values themselves. And that place was just coal mining area. That was really rich in, in song culture, but they would take an advantage of, they were all put into ha like really tiny houses and they were, they were forced onto extremely low rate wages when they eventually stood up. All they asked for was for bread and water, like, and maybe cheese. I think might've been the request on the side, but that's all they ask for because they didn't have that.

You know, my, my ancestors came from Winston Churchill when, when w the Wells complained about the hunger and the starvation and people starving on the streets of these overpopulated mining towns that were completely and utterly ruined in the health and, and killing everybody in the hours they had to work and the things they had to do to make a living. When, when th the wealth people stood up and complained about it, Winston Churchill said in parliament, we should go there and fill their bellies full of lead.

That's what delish felt. And that's what people like Winston Churchill meant to a Welshman growing up. You know, you've got to understand this is a w w we are little w we've we, we, this little country that's been trapped in this bubble of time for 500 years and not allowed to progress in our own culture. And then after all of this along come the globalists to try and homogenize the entirety of every country to take away the last of all of these, like sort of little bits of culture.

That's dotted around people at the same time in my country are trying to harness this culture and trying to propagate it and make it, make it spread again, may make sure people don't lose it at the same time. They're trying to attack it from every angle. All of the beautiful shops and buildings being fitted out replaced with a supermarkets will the brand like Tesco's and Sainsbury's, and it's the same thing on every single bloody town and nothing. There there's nothing everything's done to have margin eyes and take away all that culture.

So I tell you what, I didn't want to be a journalist chasing down the history of the wealthy and the elite. I wanted to be a normal guy playing what I would describe as my music, as acoustic punk that turned into some sort of acoustic punk rock and roll hill, Billy Oles or fusion, which was really I really why I wanted to just continue taking drugs and just like completely ignoring life, you know, and just being able to live life love and meet my friends and et cetera.

I wanted to do all of those lazy things, but it came to around 2004 and 2015, where I'd already been researched. And for quite a while, for my own benefit, you know, I'd read a story and then I'd go away and be like, oh yeah, I'm interested in that. And I had already learned about like the Epstein stuff very early on, like, you know, really early on. And I thought everybody kind of knew it. I, you know, when, when I, I didn't realize quite how little people knew about stuff like that. And when, when, when, you know, when you see something like that.

And when I was about, probably about 23, so 2003, there was lots of stuff going on. It was Iraq, war and stuff. And it was the first time where things started to come out on the internet, where you actually got access to the truth for the first time. And you've got the, the, the, the kind of like the screen pooled a way I saw the effect on all my friends. I fear that, you know, I tried to put this off for a long time because I saw people go mad in 2003, 2004.

I saw people terrified to a level that meant they ruined their entire life, their entire relationship, all their existence for this fear that was being put on from above. That was all like an existential human crisis manifesting in more. And, and all it is. It's not only that we've got a long history as we'll go through on, on, on this outcome. And recently we've got a long history of very nasty pernicious people manipulating our lives behind the scene scenes.

And they do believe that they've got a right to they've got the moral or ethical authority to, and they do see us as something different. There is an, has been for many years, a class war that is very, is very basic and simple. It's not a complex structure. There's one very early class at the top. They're all families or friends. They're all the people who are wealthy. People go up there all of the time, you know, they, and a select few get into those groups and into those families, et cetera.

But when they need to do projects and operations or control the other class below, they will only choose from those select people above who will all happily go along with the agenda, because it's part of their everyday life, their reality and existence. We live, majority of people don't live to see what their existence looks like. So we're really detached from that. And they hide a lot of it from us and every now and again, we see a sneakier. We see a peak here. We see, we see something happen that we go, oh God, we've just seen behind the curtain quickly. And then they cover up quickly. Or they just like put out one person, a sacrificial lamb, and then it all goes back to normal.

It's not normal. It's happening all the time. The majority of society is controlled. Now the information that is coming out is just completely insane. So where I was in the past was this, it was the same as most people scared about the idea of getting involved in this scared about the idea that if I said something, some will make target me, just a normal person, maybe a normal person, maybe someone I like it will turn around and say, I don't like you anymore because you speak about something that I don't agree with because all of these people tell me. And I had experienced when I first started.

Right. And I had experienced where I made a comment in a, in like my first, really terrible probably articles didn't really have an idea of what the wider world looked like. But I would say something really simple. Like, like once I said to the guardian newspaper in the UK was leaning towards the Tories and the load the people said no. And I got really like, oh my God, maybe I'm wrong then. Okay, I'm sorry. Oh, go in and check straight away the guardian.

Oh my God. And you know, that's where you start off. You don't have any knowledge. You don't have any understanding. You can't work it out because it's also absurd. And it's like the Cameroon principle philosophy principle of absurdity all the time, which confuses you. And now they've really the powers that be have embraced that for the past, maybe 70, 80, 90, a hundred years safe, embrace that absurdity to keep us all arguing over the such the little stupid things while they create really complex social economic policies around us, that will lead to an agenda that is globalism will lead to an agenda.

That means one world government will lead to an agenda that we'll have over lines, like new world order attached and everything, because we all know where it's going. And this isn't even the first incarnation of this type of thing. You know, what I'm discovering in my research is that the things that we see today, like young, global leader projects and things, they're all things that I've manifested in the past in different ways. And we're on an evolutionary process. They come in about things very quickly, and we're going about things very simply and slowly, because at the same time that we're trying to work out what's going on and everything so absurd with being shot on the side all of the time.

So what, what, you know, my journey has been one of the past, I'd say very much six years, really under trying to understand where my place in this would be because at the start, everybody goes to the place where everybody is and tries to do that. I learned quite early on, I had hints in my work very early on that my line was looking at family trees, looking at the heritage and of, of people where they come from.

And I thought at first that was just like to simplify things, but it's a really interesting exploration that when you really look into families, you see loads of different things that go on and they're connected. Wall loads are wider, different things, and it gives you a lot of context and understanding about, about the wider world, but also in looking for family history and looking through that, what I learned with a skill to be able to find things no one else could find about somebody. So I learned how to think very outside the box.

So my recent article that I've written was probably 11 months of thinking. And one month of writing and research, you know, I, I I'd already, I, I mean, I would say the research performance cause that whole time before was looking, trying to understand the whole context of everybody who's involved, where everybody was, what all the pieces. And then you've got to select your time for this to happen because every five years is this like changing and it allows them to hide away.

So you're looking for like these, these moments where you can, you can find context and then you've got to dismember that and pull it all apart, find the main structural points and then work your way all the way backwards to the start. Even before the start I go, I go back before these people were even born sometimes to find contexts with bill gates. For instance, I went back over 700 years to find context, to understand what that guy is, who that guy is and what it's all about.

And you know what, however much you, I don't have to look for the, I don't have to look for this. I don't have to look for this. It shows itself naturally it's, as soon as you understand what you're trying to get together for me, a lot of the time, for instance, in this article, I'm trying to get a really complicated information to people. And so what's the best way for me is chronologically profile freemen. So you can understand how they join a coalesce and how they become this one entity with this idea at a time when that idea was needed, able to be put in place with the technology arising at the time.

And then they start recruiting people for that agenda. You know, you can then form as the evidence forms itself, you don't have to form anything. The evidence forms itself. And this is same with this article. Then, then as with other articles I've written at really important, you just study the thing from start to finish from top to bottom, and you will see what it is. That's how humans do things. We study it in all different ways. And a lot of the time you have to study it and look at it in ways that you don't, you know, you don't have a mind for, I, I was a big fan of one movie when I was younger, that I think changed my life in the sense and inspired me to this director called Manhunter, which was a Michael Mann movie and was based on a red dragon, which was a book by Thomas Harrison is based on kind of the, it was the first appearance of Hannibal Lecter in, in something.

And I was obsessed with this character will Graham. The main character in this book is this movie. And this book is such an amazing, amazing, like, like this idea that you can go in and you can think about. So you look at things in different ways and you can learn how to do that. And I spent the last six, seven years trying to develop that as a realistic skill. And it's not as like early on, I sit down and you meditate and everything comes to you and it's not like it's not a spooky thing or like sort of special outside help that is needed for this.

We've got a mind that once you put all the ingredients in your mind, all of the information, all of the, the older those data. So I hate to say it like that, but common boy, as soon as you put all of that information within you, and you're able to see things contextually, everything shows itself because it is true and truthful with shows itself. And you, you know, while they will try and manipulate, this is really important while they try to manipulate people.

And every like the whole of our societies, all of the public, everybody, when they try and manipulate everybody by using lies to make people do this over here, I'll tell a lie over here that makes people do this over here. That means that lives okay. That's a principle that needs to disappear from humanity completely. It has to be about you show people the true hope into here and the output input, truth, output, truth, input, crap, output, crap. That's the way it works. That's the way everything works. You put in lies, you will get light and you will get shit in return.

And that's what they do. That's what their entire system is based on. There is no thing that you, you can find a million things that even the smallest town people within this political or a social structure, or is this whatever structure we've got going on in this world nowadays, which is like a it's it's hiding from us. So we can't really define what it looks like. It's just horrible. But this system, these people within the system, they're all stuck in it. They're all stuck in it. They don't know any better.

You have to show them that they're not only on the wrong side of history. They're on the wrong side of humanity, leading themselves genocide. They're leading themselves towards the people who have no ideas. And when they're out of ideas, they kill them. They're leading towards the normal things that humans have done for time and Memorial. It's, it's been no different. There's been no change since there's been people making civilizations, there's been war disease, all of these different things.

And most of all, people trying to get power so that they can do things by aligning to people we're entering a new world. We've got to stop that. So, sorry, if you just asked me who I was, and that was my answer.

Speaker 1 (21m 16s): Well, that's a beautiful answer. And I, I admire your energy. And I think that in that particular answer, you gave people a lot of ways to see the world the way you see it. I think that's beautiful. I think people should begin to recognize patterns and understand that the patterns, like you said, once you begin recognizing patterns, you can go into the past and see that pattern. You can go into the future and see that pattern. But more importantly, you can go inside yourself and see the pattern and learn new points.

Speaker 2 (21m 46s): Yeah. That's what we do though. We, I mean, repatterning finding new patterns is how you succeed in life is how you succeed at psycho.

Speaker 1 (21m 57s): Yeah. And so I, in, in, in the last part of your statement, it makes me wonder if what we're seeing right now, like on some level, it seems to me that we're seeing on one hand it's, it's like the evolution of Orwell's three different blocks. And on the other hand, it appears that maybe they're just all screw it up and dummies, and they're going to kill each other because they can't fight. The other lies are coming out and they hate each other. You know, what is it really that orchestrated? Or was it just chaos?

Speaker 2 (22m 27s): I fought, I I've, I've fought about this a lot recently, especially with the idea of, of the blocks, because I, I think, I think they're leading us towards what they see as order what they see as it, if you use all the ingredients they use, let's go back to ingredients. Again. If you use all the ingredients they use to create a recipe, you're going to end up at this road where you need global governance. 1, 1, 1 entity to write in all the rules.

Now, however you go through these routes, really these guys are the guys who were planned this out over years, guys, that these, this relates to, I mean, the guy who did the guys who gave Schwab his first opportunities and push them out there into the world and gave him all these links and helped him set up, they're all members of the council on foreign relations. Because it's these guys who are the guys who have created this vision from a time and an era, which is completely inactive. We watch it in movies. Now we'd go, oh God, these people were so, so dumb.

These people were so stupid. So simple. Are you seeing the same thing happened all over again because they simplified it so badly that we've regressed the 1950s intelligence. I mean, these guys are all our vision of the future is based on these, these sick puppies from the past. So w w we, where can we, sorry, go great. I forgot. I forgot what the question was. I just thought that

Speaker 1 (23m 56s): You are, you're addressing it perfectly. I know what it is that we have the council on foreign relations, the Atlanta council, you, you spoke about Schwab being the mentee of a con and Kissinger and the devil's chess board and all of these old school ideas about where the world's going and the altar, the question was, is it chaos or is it planned? And I think what you were saying was that the, it they're messing it up so bad that no matter what it has to go to global government.

Speaker 2 (24m 27s): So, so yeah, but where does it now? What I think the real question that you probably want to ask there is what's that next stage look like of how to say look, when they actually try and implement all of this, which is what we're seeing now. So we're currently seeing the last froze of global government push for global governments. We're seeing, okay, China's basically lined up. Russia seemed like they were completely on board with the cyber polygon event with who's the prime minister heading up the world, economic forum type of polygon simulation with Burbank being the main backers and sperm bank are the ones who are looking heavily involved in the world, economic forum that they had us Burbank, him and crash and craft.

I think his name is he used to , he's one of the main contributors to the world, economic forums in general. And they also want to set up this app, which means that everything you do in Russia, it goes through the sperm bank app. There will be no of a bank. There will be no of, of you. If you need to pay a bail, if you need to pay at the supermarket, if you need to do anything at all, if you need to check what the wherever is, I end up in is all going through this, a bank app, it, everything, it will do everything. And then I was this idea of the cyber polygon event that we'll be going to wake forum as well.

You know, they, they seem on board with the agenda. And of course, Vladimir Putin is reportedly. I found one report of it, at least in a inappropriate paper that said that they were free in 1991. They were free candidates from the KGB selected by the world economic forum, as Russia's foremost Patriots, which was the alternative program to young global leaders for the Russians, and only included like free guys who were heavily linked to the KGB and Putin, who would the land before he was installed in power, would then be given like, become the great top and become a mayor of a Russian tablet.

And suddenly we would be installing basically that. Nope. If you go and look in the archives and stuff, no one knows about Putin until Farsi out, since pointed at him, this guy, you know, that's that, that's how he got installed. It all comes from like a 1991. So he's installed in like the 99. So you get, you've got like this eight year missing period, right? Where there's loads of stuff going on there as well. So these guys are all, they all seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet.

You go to China singing. I've seen him Russia. Yeah. But there's all this political stuff. It looks confusing. Doesn't it. Then you were up all thing enough, that same hymn sheet, the Anglo American side seemed to be pretending not to sing off the same sheet. What was the same time? There's people like hunter Biden and others go in and really getting close with China. And they're Amy really close. Not only him. I mean, there's loads of people, Klaus, Schwab, son, himself, Olivia Schwab is a kid in China and he's heavily involved with that.

So that would be something I'll definitely be looking at in the future. Olivia, they all seem important to Latin American countries, nearly all of them, nearly all of them appear on board. So what's the problem. If they're all on board with the same agenda, why aren't they joining together? And it's quite simply because they they're having this point where they're like, okay, now we, if we do that, we're going to destroy nation states. We're going to take all of our key away from LA is when people go, what do you mean global conspiracy was true.

Oh my God. And you know, that's the point when a load of people who like me, and this is why I really, I going to start expressing people. I come from a country that's been attacked for years and years and years where we've had our language taken away where we've been criminalized. So now I'm speaking to you in English where I prefer to speak to you with a much thicker well shack where I spoke Welsh for all of my life, because I feel like it's such a beautiful language in itself.

It's what Elvis was basically based on. I mean, it does sound a lot like our vis Elvis not help helpers. I started to like Elvis. It, it's a beautiful thing. There's so much history. There's so much unique culture that I don't want to see destroyed. And they want to see this as it'll just be minor casualties of their globalist agenda. So what can they achieve? So they can achieve some sort of like, everything's the same and everything's going to be fine afterwards.

And it's going to be a corporate corporate utopia. You know, I, I mean, I can't even imagine what is in their mind for making business, the main people who creates the inceptive it's like the population and getting rid of just shit people. That's just, that's just get rid of, that's what I think their, their thinking's got to attend to now, where are we now is really slightly different because I think that this agenda, that plan bow kind of win. I bet if is good, right?

It went a little bit, went a little bit nuts because they all plan the agenda rail. I think that was going to be traceable, but fundable that they all work together. I'm looking in 1980s and seeing China being really much more into the fold of the world, economic community. And that being the start where China's rising up within being an important member within that community. I think what China saw was all of these visions written out and they were like, well, we can implement these so much faster than the other guys.

And you know, what we see in China is, was designed by the world, economic forum, boys in the eighties and nineties, you know, that it was already designed. Even before that, you go back into my piece. I, I attached a video, which is, I think is around it's the early sixties, Herman Kahn talking with I, Anthony, Jay Wiener. Not the same. The, I don't know if he's related actually, cause he's got a bit of a New York accent and stuff.

And he does seem like a freak boy, cause these guys having a little conversation and the shit they talking about is exactly what we're seeing. Now. You don't have video, we'll have his ID cards. Maybe we can put a bit of tranquilizer in the water supply. You know, this is this, this was their thinking back then, this is one of the men who inspired and mentored Schwab. This is one of the mentees of Schwab. I love that, that, that mentee and even someone who goes where right.

And all the time, I like, I don't appreciate, let's say someone else say it, but yeah, these are the th this is the true, and there's an amazing story behind the, I mean, that, that article itself and discovering how these free men impacted in forks life, it made Schwab make a hell of a lot more sense because Schwab for me had been, it was, it was the point where I had done the research. I've done 12 family values last year, which looked at his father's history, working in a Nazi model company, working on the Nazi atomic bomb program.

And then how he went on to form a, a company out of that company called from that company with brown Boveri shelter commanders. And at the same time that that was going on, they were selling parts for nuclear weapons for, from any of the weapons to aid in south Africans, illegal nuclear bomb projects. So in programs, so you've got, you've got the swamp father doing exactly the same illegal, horrible business. I mean, atomic Nazis, getting the atomic bomb, that's fucked in through the looking glass that had helped them out enough.

And that had happened. We wouldn't have the world economic forum in its current form. I can pharmacy that there would be a lot more like flipping up the old and going on there because that's who they are. That's who they are. The Nazis went in, sold. I tweeted this out the other day, really, really important. The Nazis were guys running around big Hench guys in tin helmets. They, they weren't these crazy over the top screaming like leaders who were on the TV were propagate on this. They, they weren't the, the, the skinheads and the, the, the, the white shirt.

It guys, we see the white vested guys that we see on, on the media today. They weren't any of those. They were bureaucrats who were into technology. They were new. They were the new emerging technocracy technocracy had was a weird thing. Technocracy came from the 1930s. And it wasn't kind of like an ideological movement. It was an actual membership group and it had a certain agenda attached to it. And you know, there's a lot of what happened during world war two.

When we look at the real horrors of what happened during world war two, when all of those things would do to them using technologies that they wanted to use, and they should never use. So

Speaker 1 (33m 50s): You're using now. I mean, if you, if you look at what happened to a lot of the people in the Jewish prison camps, like the same experiments are going on now, now they're just using DNA. Now it's out in the open and people are volunteering for, Hey, get it done to your kids.

Speaker 2 (34m 3s): Yeah. And you can understand, because these guys, like I say, I mean, for people who don't understand that principle, that the Nazis just joined the overside. It was literally these bureaucrats, nice thinkers and philosophers once when they, they could be made to look like they were just caught up in it, or, you know, Von Papen w would, would not, not serve any time that much time. I think he might serve like a couple of months in prison or something for his crimes, but he would go back into politics afterwards.

You know, these guys didn't disappear in actual fact operation paperclip and other operations happen, but just moved the bureaucrats, the philosophers, the, the philosophy behind the, the, the actual manifestation of horror that we saw during that, to Germany, those people, they're not really Nancy's per se, there's something else they will latch on to any ideology. Like they latched on to Nazis. They're the technocrats.

They believe technology is the key for everything. And in doing that, they automatically lose humanity because the two things are inextricably. Th th th they just, they they're opposites. They are, they cannot be anything, but the idea of humanity and the idea, technology, two different things, they want them to all become the same thing. And it's always about the same thing. Isn't it. It's always about keeping their heartbeat and so that they can drink some more fine wine and some more crude holes into the wonderful caviar that they have lying around.

And now, and again, I've had the option tasting a bit like, Carville, I'd be like, oh, that's all right. You know, done inside of the door. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I'm just rambling here.

Speaker 1 (36m 2s): It's awesome. It's all good points. It makes me think, like, I have this idea to like, and I want to tie this pattern together. When you talk about Klaus, Schwab's father doing the same thing he did, isn't it weird that he wrote into the world economic forum, that his kid will always be in charge. It's kind of like, his dad probably wrote that in there. And think about, if you think about object or project paperclip, like we move all the science. We move a bunch of scientists over to the U S like I was thinking recently, and this is just pure conjecture, but you know, what happened to the children of the project, paperclip scientists, like, isn't it weird?

Like, there's all these people in American politics that like, like, I look at Lex freedom and I'm like, do, what does this guy do? Like, who is this guy? Look at his dad. His dad was

Speaker 2 (36m 47s): Okay. You don't want to start me out. I have never said vocally about, about, listen. They, they, they,

Speaker 1 (36m 54s): And he's gotta be project paperclip. Progeny.

Speaker 2 (36m 58s): If COVID hadn't happened, I'd be right. Concentrating on the teal versus what we call the teal verse in my game.

Speaker 1 (37m 7s): Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37m 7s): I, I, I that's Whitney web who I think, cause, cause we'd be completely like concentrated on that. If it wasn't for all of the shit that's happened

Speaker 1 (37m 20s): Around, they don't want us concentrating on

Speaker 2 (37m 22s): Well, yeah. That's one of the things they don't want us concentrating on. Remember, there's not just one thing. They don't want us constantly. They want us concentrate. And if they just be one thing that we should all be concentrating on when it's actually, we should be concentrating on the fact there's loads of things, Richard, because The interesting thing about conspiracies is that it's done by small groups, small actors. It's usually a group of around five who commit large wide-scale conspiracies.

I've seen this over and over again. You know, in this case you could say the conspiracy to set that will be economic forum as though it was its own in a like creation from Europeans and et cetera. That is a conspiracy that is a conspiracy for it. You needed at least four people who I identified. Of course there'll be others. There will be others. Because when I went over with Galbraith con to Europe, to convince people, to support the world economic forum idea and to come to the first world economic forum, he didn't only bring those two.

He did bring a few other people too. I think I, I think one of the things that I do, oh, I tried to do is make sure that I, are you still here? Are we still

Speaker 1 (38m 42s): I'm here?

Speaker 2 (38m 43s): Absolutely. Yeah. I wasn't sure if my computer who might be freezing a little bit, but one of the things that you, you can, well, you, you can see that conspiracies do exist. They're very small. They need to be kept under control. And that is one of the reasons why Schwab's written in as like lifelong leader for the world economic forum, because they could not allow a project that was backed by us state department employees so much, because you have to remember when Schwab was being recruited, Herman Carnes working for the state department.

Galbraith said he doesn't want to be an advisor to Johnson because he hates Johnson. And I think that was something to do with the, the, the Kennedy stuff. Cause he was advisor to Kennedy, but he also was the teacher, the professor at Harvard who taught JFK that's bloody insane. I mean, when you read Galbraith the two men, I mean, for people who haven't read the article. Yeah. I wrote an article recently called Dr. Glass Schwab or how the CFO told me to stop worrying and love the bomb, which is a core of course.

I mean, for some people they may think, oh, he's just use the title of a movie, but there's very, very significant links to that movie within the article. Extremely significant. But the real, so, I mean, I mean, you kind of have to define the I it's about it's about the free men who recruited 12 through an international seminar. This international seminar was created by a man called William Yan, Dow Elliott, and anybody who would go and look into William Yandell Elliott will go, holy shit, whose houses wherever I've never heard of, very advise it to six us presidents, extreme grantee of the council on foreign relations and our Oreo or hidden hand.

And you know, you say, oh, where he received public politics. How did he beat? Well, he was very bloody doing loads of other things too. So it was very hidden. He was someone who had helped Kissinger along, but he was also someone who would create this international seminar, Harvard, which would run at summer schools. So while the terms weren't in between terms, which I think is very clever for, if you don't want a load of students popping in to find out what's going on in the lecture halls, we've all of these like really, really dodgy folk who are going to end up being leaders of the real world.

But you don't want to know exactly what it is. So let's do it at the summer school. He, we, yeah. Elliot would put Henry Kissinger as executive director of the course, Henry Kissinger was recruited by the CFR in 1951 would do the nuclear working groups for the CFR through the mid sixties and became food's the CFR, one of the most powerful foreign policy, dashed thermonuclear war experts at the time when, oh, they just needed that. So, so, so, you know, Kissinger was very much CFR Galbraith's favorite CFR, Herman Kahn wrote for the CFR and a couple of occasions, but I mean, his links are harder.

I caused it to come across, but yet these free men would, would be introduced. Kissinger would meet Schwab who would attend the seminars, international seminars. Now Schwab young Klaus Schwab would have been in his twenties. And he was noted really in his twenties, in his thirties where he was pretty young, but he, he w he was noted straight away by kids and just being special and introduced to Galbraith and Kern who were like really significant people to introduce people there.

And these guys would basically help would recruit Schwab to create something that would allow them to implant us aligned foreign policy into Europe in the creation of what was the world economic forum was originally called the European management symposium. That was changed after a couple of years to do a peer management forum. And that was changed in, I think, the nineties to the world economic forum. So you've got this, like, there's this thing that was, oh, look, it's European it's for writing policies. And it's just happens to be created by three of the most important people behind writing policies for Europe at that time, who all focus in by that time on Europe with Galbraith and Kissinger taking part together in the Mandeville lectures, which were focused on Europe and foreign policy related to American foreign policy related to Europe in 1966, Kissinger was put in charge of a working group, looking at how they can affect European foreign policy and create a, a leadership group and et cetera within it.

And it was what will CFR grantees as well in that and other people from other dodgy and shade institutions of foundations, these guys, these guys would be vital in making, putting Schwab installed in Schwab and who they are is amazing because Kissinger, most people know is, is pretty dodgy or is Teligent, you know, CFR link for CIA. I mean, international seminar, they recruit swapped through is funded $146,000 from the CIA while Schwab is going there.

So, I mean, you can't even hide away from it. And th th these other men, Galbraith is really interesting because where Kissinger looks at foreign policy relating to Europe and relating to from a nuclear war, which of course we're in the cold war era. So, so that's really hot topic, hot soup art, but you've also got, you've also got John Kenneth Galbraith being the man who writes economic and social policies. He had studied land policies under Hitler in 1938.

His wife lived with, oh, what's his name? Mitford oh, I CA I always forget, as soon as I get round to, and I always forget her name she's suing friendly, but she w she, she Hitler's bloody bloody girlfriend. His wife left weightless bloody girlfriend while she was going out with Hitler, what that, you know, it's like, it's bizarre. And so then he goes back to Harvard where he's teaching, like the Kennedy's and eventually he'll, he'll be in the Kennedy cabinet.

And when Kennedy gets the magic bullet in him, they will, he will be the one who drafts Johnson's first speech after the assassination, as a massive moment in history. Massive. Then John Kenneth Galbraith for actors like I'm against the Vietnam war. Yeah. Kennedy actually sent him over to the Vietnam to Vietnam to check out the, the, one of the reports that had been made in a year. Outbrief said, oh, you draw, you start withdrawing your trips now.

And so we had started doing that. And then later on Kennedy gets popped. I think maybe Galbraith felt maybe there was a link there. So I think there was plenty of people in the CFR who didn't like Kennedy very much. And didn't like the fact that they could couldn't manipulate them. Like they could others. Cause the Kennedy brothers are real and normally a couple of anomalies in history where you look at them and you're like, how the hell did they manage to slip through the gaps? Like, and that's because they, they, you know, they, they latch on to that, that want for something new and something different so well, but they were a good example of what happens to people who try and, and, and walk that path.

Because I have to say all of the people in history that I look at for American politics, I'm always like, and when he gets to Bobby and Jack Kennedy, fall of their little naughtiness round the back, wow. What a pair of guys, they were, who they were normally in modern history and it caused a lot of problems. So I think outbreak afterwards, he concentrated on the Vietnam. You refused on Vietnam. He helped Eugene McCarthy, his, his election campaign. He refused to help Robert Kennedy.

I did read in one of his books, they said, so it's something like, oh, he didn't like his cocky style and all of this. I think he was very like a little bit, you know, he loved JFK, but in his own way, I don't know how that way. That was, well, whatever type of emotion he calls love. He felt that for JFK, but, but Bobby Kennedy didn't like so much. So he didn't support him. And he would start up like just movement democracy now, movement or whatever, or talks now, which was to stop the Vietnam war and stuff.

And he would fight against that a lot. But at the same time you would be joining alongside Kissinger who was weirdly like escalating the war at the same time and helping escalate the war. And at the same time they're joining together. They're joining forces to concentrate in Europe. Like, oh, this guy, we completely opposite of this view over here. But when we'd combine over to here, we're best mates. You know, we agree on everything that, that sort of thing is always like, well, at the end of the day, a CFR, so you've got a job to do Ave. You got to serve your masters.

And that's what they were, they were doing. They were serving their masters. I think all of these guys were serving their masters. So, so Galbraith eventually after all of this massive, amazing, amazing history yet by the sixties and seventies, I think he was looking to concentrate on something which meant that you could spend a lot of time in Europe. I would write a lot more about Europe before. You'd written about lots of other different he'd written mainly about economics, all of his life, like just about economics, some big books as well.

And he had, he had Queens of big terms and stuff. You know, he was a big thinker and he was a big, a big guy. And then of course the other person alongside, he would be the first keynote speaker at the world economic forum. He would go across with Schwab and con to convince people to come on board. He would be one of the most important people to making the thing a reality. Herman Kahn is one of the most interesting people in human history. In my opinion, Herman Kahn is you have a man and who was, who was with Galbraith to help push for this and who was introduced to case and Jeffrey, this international seminar to Schwab and in Schwab would obviously see something amazing in car.

Like most people did because Khan was someone at the time who was like, he was gold. He could prof correctly, prophesize a future. Fuck man, any of us, if any of us could have somebody who could tell us what the future is going to be, then we'd be right in there straightaway. And, and he could do that, but he could, he did it from gang theory. He didn't do it just around and having to think he did it through mapping out all of the possibilities and then working out which ones wouldn't happen, which ones would happen.

So this is what he did with thermonuclear war from the fifties through the Hudson Institute. And by 19 69 61, he was published on big works, including offer weekly a war in 1961, which would be the inspiration for Dr. Strangelove, the ideas within it, because it's all about nuclear deterrence there. That's where he's writing about before as well, how you deter. Cause it's a real complex thing. It's not that complex. It's three things, basically how to deter from a basic nuclear attack, which is easy. You just have loads of nukes on the other side, so they don't do it.

How to deter from the things that come from, the, the things that come from that dynamic, that's a little bit more complicated. And then you have ones like how to deter the things that you need to deter by determining, by making them non-profitable as a deterrence, you know, it becomes through the looking glass and that's where Khan was able to really flourish in his skills because he can do the impossible. And by 1967, he was writing something which obviously would inspire Schwab. And he must've been in writing it as he was meeting Schwab as it was the year 2000, which was their attempt to look forward at where we would be at, in the millennium and the technology technological advances that we would experience there.

And it is incredible, incredible how accurate they were is incredible about how many types of technologies of the future they managed to, to hit on the head. The majority of them haven't come into fruition yet, but I nearly there, it just won't round the corner. So we know they come in and basically the Schwab w obviously must have been heavily affected by con ness idea. And they were also, he was also being recruited to form this organization with the help of people like calm.

And by this point they knew, they knew that there wasn't going to be nuclear war. And basically this was all about the third part of the deterrence. This was all about working out what you can do to stop other things and to control over things and to, to manipulate behind the scenes. And at the same time, as he was released in the year 2000, which would show all these technological advancements, he would also be releasing an ancillary document. They were writing it as an Institute in private by the side on the side, which would map out how to install leaders, who can make all of these things happen, how to create a leadership group.

And it is really, I think, S kind of a study from what they had learned from the international seminars and would map out what would eventually be the, I, I think I, I would, I would think that it wouldn't be like the direct next step from the international seminars, like international seminars and young global leaders. Cause there was massive decades in between. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's another project in there, that's run by roughly these same people doing roughly the same things that would explain some of the leaders in between some of these people.

So some of these leaders are just establishment leaders, but all over the world, we've had some interesting characters in during those periods and it's quite traceable. So you've looked at you look at our brief as well. At the beginning of the sixties, a group is set up to be against war and stuff included Ronald Reagan and stuff. So, I mean, he was a massive influence to major leaders in the future. Always he, the person who have select major leaders in the future, cause it seems that when you actually look into it all is there's no democratic process here at all.

These guys are groomed and put into the power and all of the rest of it is just like a fear to show for us to think that we're actually voting for someone different when they both pick from the same side, they worked that out early, they'd been doing it for years and years. They just had to do it more strategically. And over the decades that has advanced. One of the places that advanced from was this international seminar with Schwab was originally recruited by Henry Kissinger who was CIA funded program. And it was funded by a conduit, but it was a known conduit and Harvard themselves would find out about it, write a report of free dorm.

And I think your name was right before in 1967, the year Schwab was leaving Harvard saying, look, these are the, these courses have been funded by the CIA and this is quite terrible. And we should, we should, we should really look into this. And then Harvard Crimson released this, which is the magazine for Harvard that released this article out and it's attributed to new author. And it basically says, oh yes, but you know, none of that, there was no, there was no recruiting or anything going on.

There was no, there was nothing dodgy going on. There was just, no, of course they can. They, it was during the summer school. They can, they can influence what was being taught at Harvard. So it's okay. It's okay. And at the end of it, they're like in this piece, they say, and anyway, you know, if we didn't take the money from this shady organization, they'd always find another form of adversity to go through. And that's like a pun meaning intelligence. So it's like it's at the time. So it's funded by the CA, but I tell you what you can do.

We're going to wait for 50 years. Someone like me, I was going to discover that that was the CIA funded course and make the lane five swap. One of the most powerful men in the world came through that course, which is that's Harvard. So, you know, the most intelligent, one of the most intelligent places in America, and they were so dumb in the past. I mean, they could not see what agenda was being created because they were too busy being superior believing.

And they're still doing that today. The hubris that we see from the downfall of the major people at the top, people like me and you, we try and be down to it with the normal people. We try and understand what's going on, but it all feels a bit cooky and strange. Like there's a load of incest risk guys running the country. We try, we try and remain like being normal. But honestly, man, this stuff is nuts. This stuff, these people, they are, you can map them out. It is really, is. It takes a long time.

It takes a while to understand what you should be looking at and what you shouldn't be looking at. That's what I've I I've, I've got too. And I honestly, I would say from my work over four or five years, I made made 2000 pounds or something. Just like, I just have not many times I should've monetized my world. I, you know, I, a lot of this, a lot of like proper researchers out there who were doing the actual hard graph of looking through stuff and trying to find all the documents of the past and all the information from the past, like me, I was sitting behind a hotel reception desk where I'd have to run up and unblock people's toilets quickly and went back down and finished research in the world elite so that I could bring them down.

I mean, it shouldn't be, like I said, at the start, it shouldn't be up to people like me, but there's been a massive, th th th the truth has been neglected by the press, the press up in a way that means you enter into the press and you're covering this or that. But the truth stories you have to find, so you can't find a true story. If you're focused here, focused there, and the true story is underneath it all. So, so their whole thing is set up to me that people don't look in the right place, this as simple as that.

So I'm, I'm in a situation now where I'm like, I try, but they wouldn't even let me do English and history in school. Cause I used to set things on fire and stuff among other things I got blamed for everything that happens in my high school. Literally I was wanting to help in the room like Guantanamo bay style, like for basically two days being interrogated about the destruction of the six form toys, because it must be me. And the thing is I knew everybody did it, but I ended up saying, oh yeah, why didn't you go and talk to a squealer?

Like so and so, and he was an ass so much and like a thought, you're not sense. I probably did squeal and everyone gets, they call them in two days after interrogating me and weird interrogation in score. They eventually, they eventually here, he needed to everybody in five minutes and burst out into tears. But there's always been, there's always been an issue that I've not been allowed to study this stuff. And I that's been from very young on, you know, in my life. And I've always felt that, okay, well you telling me not that do some families will say I don't fire my way in the world.

So now I'm here. Now I'm here reporting on serious stuff, trying to do serious work, trying to make sure that I map everything out in a way that means that there's no, you know, I give my opinions at the end of the P end of the piece. And I do that with all P pieces. I, I have to give a little bit of my opinion. I try and make it measured. I mean, it's really hard to be measured when you're dealing with this type of people. Cause I don't understand the man. I don't understand why they do what they do. I don't understand what motivates them.

I don't understand how they can look in the eyes of their kids and think that they're doing a nice thing. I think that they, I think they completely detached from something. And that, that is something that comes from a real, like, I just think he comes from very people who haven't had a certain experiences in their life because they'd been forced to do all of this hard work, to come into a position where they're just going to end up not having any actual power or use knowledge. Instead, they're going to be told how to manipulate the leavers of their company or their society or their little membership groups so that they can influence other things.

I don't think they have, I've had spiritual kind of existence early on that has allowed them to understand the connection with other humans and et cetera. So I think there's something, I think there's a level of that within why these people are so far removed from reality as well and seem so different from a lot of the people that mean you and I would, would, would, would hang around with. So I, I don't know what we're dealing with most of the time, but all I can do is stick down the things I find onto a paper in a form that makes other people be able to understand that easier than, than reading a book, a long book or seven books about it, you know?

Cause cause it is really hard to, to kind of grasp what's going on if you're not aware of the context. So I try and give people a little bit of context to everything and I try and look for the things that no one else has found as comes from the family history search in type of stuff. I've learned different ways and techniques to look at information and where it may be stored or where you may find it. Because nearly everything that is important is written down somewhere, usually in multiple places. And people don't really realize it because they go out and they stick with in Google.

Oh God, is it that? No. Is it that no. Well I have, I find that younger FEDLINKS th there is a different way of approach in looking at information and like getting rid of the noise around information is so much stuff you don't need. Either. You can get distracted by and you, you know, some interesting points you'll come across that aren't related that you can just put to the side, you don't have to throw them away.

They'll come up again. Remember everything you go through and, and they'll come up again. And again, cause these guys, they, their story is why their narrative is large. It's complicated. It changes depending on which little control structure you're in, but basically they're all linked to the same agenda. And that agenda is forming. What I think is now turning into basically two states. So where we see the ideal of free states, I think the Anglo American stay as dominated Europe so much that there is no return for Europe, Europe, America, Britain, all of that aligned the majority of Europe.

I don't think there's any way back. So I think that we're now down to a point where we see in the formation of two states and we're seeing, we're going to see in the next year or two, some big names flip over allegiances. So that will come with the crash of the economy and that will come to do with the Petro dollar and that, which is not only on its way out by what I on the, the ground is about to burn. And you're talking months away from one of the biggest financial crisis, quite biggest manufactured financial crisis you could ever have because that's what they need.

So we're, we're, we're heading towards somewhere where Saudi Arabia and countries like that will no longer have that sort of power over the world to the oil, et cetera, and, and, and is going to flip the power dynamics. So expect to see a couple of countries who have been aligned with the west change side. I expect to see the attempt to turn in Turkey, east looking rather than west lock-in and expect to see a line that goes from all the way up to the top of Karelia in the north of Russia, all the way along, all the way down the Arab peninsula and stop him right down the bottom, expect to see a complete iron curtain of the biggest kind of behind that wall.

China will say, well, we've advanced really quickly. And now this is one of the problems with the agenda and what I was saying earlier, they've advanced so quickly. The other countries now look like the copy in China, but it's the same agenda. So looking different. So now if the west take on all of these things that the China doing, social credit systems, it's only gonna look Chinese, but this is a huge one. What we're watching is a manifestation of the same ideology being delivered at a hyper speed in an a, in a country where they've got less rights and less, less power.

And so what's happening in the west. You're seeing is they find the reasons to take away our rights and our power to leave us in a situation they can get on with that as quickly as possible, because it is the agenda. That's the agenda, the world economic forum, that's the agenda globalism. They need to combine it all together. So China is just a lot further down the road. So I think it will be just like China will be a bit of a standoff and won't be involved. They don't need to be because they won't be part of that Western European border. They're on the other side, they're not going to get involved and it's going to go in China so they can attack Russia.

That would be crazy and Chinese on get involved. What you're seeing is the two power box for when I think, I think Europe and America emerging together. And then when I've done all of this research, that is just backed up by the fact that him and cam states perfectly and the documents, what the ideal thing we could see is America and Europe being one superstar. That's what we want. That's what they say. That's at the time, that's when they're recruiting each wall. That's why our Henry Case in Jay's is looking towards the same thing.

That's why it does when John Kenneth Galbraith is looking towards the same thing they want to combine it. And that is a Roseann ideal that comes from round table groups that comes from CFR chapter house in the UK. That comes from the same things of the past that we've been trying. We'd be trying to tell people, look, this has been going on for years and it's bloody silly. Well, they built the infrastructure to allow it to continue over and over again. I mean, I bet you, the council on foreign relations buildings, pretty skanky. And they, they, they, they know they probably own them completely.

You know, th the, these guys have a lot of sway, a lot of power, a lot of money. A lot of the people who are the real power in society are all members of these groups. And we are being running them up. But what happens next? The superstates tell the world we're going to fall into a globally superstate. And every nation state has an eruption of complete enough horror. As people work out that their culture is about to be deleted in a marginalized from the human race.

And that's where I think is the best possibility of coming back against this is the fact that we've got to embrace our cultures. We got to do the opposite. Every single thing they say. So when they say don't have babies, we got to have loads of babies. Oh, sorry. Just the way be scared of this. Don't be scared of that. Be scared. Don't be scared of that. Just live your life. Be happy. Don't use a currencies. Don't believe them.

Don't trust them. Don't invest in their businesses. Don't buy from people who align with it's time to start lobbying our countries for having people arrested for treason, because the people who are aligned with world economic forum have committed treason on a scale like never seen before in nearly every country in the world. And if you care about your nation states, well, we want to see people like in my country, in the UK, I want to see Tony Blair in jail. I want to see Gordon brown in jail.

I want to see Miliband in jail. I want to see at falls in jail, them David Cameron in jail. I want to see Boris Johnson in jail. I want to see them all in jail because they're all world economic forum, young global leaders installed into power through a manipulator gerrymandered system to change our politics, to take us to war, to line us with these complete criminals in these complete quirks to take away our identities of all our nation states and undermine our nation states, to an extent that they form superstate, that will then be beholden to some other power that is known and acted and is completely and utterly against all what we see as good morally and ethically.

What we've got to do is see countries actually hold these treasonous bastards to account say, right, you you're either going to tell us everything that happened in these events. You're going to tell us all of the information you're going to tell us every person that that came through these events, only these events you don't want to know about their private lives. I want to know about these events, what they've been doing, how they've helped, how they've manipulated society and how they will be installed into government. And we need to turn our focus on making sure that all of these people are broken apart and start talking about the past.

Start talking about their experiences in world economic forum, young global leaders, because these people are going to have to distance themselves from these globalist dictators. They have to, if they want to remain with w w w with any type of respect after the revolution. And that's what I'm saying after the revolution, after the revolution, think about it. All of these people, people, I get my country at balls and Yvette Cooper who worked for the labor party. And they've tried to help install this and manipulate things behind the scenes.

Once you're being prosecuted. And we see all of the information of how you've done this, you will deserve to be in prison for the rest of your life. All of these people have committed such level of trees and it's led to millions of people dying, all different disasters that have been manufactured and created, including wars, including rock, including all of that. That was all done by world economic forum, young global leaders as well. Wasn't it. So let's, let's start talking about holding these people to account on an actual legal basis, exposing the actual agenda so that the CFR can no longer run.

So the CFR can no longer hide so that the CIA people like that can be shown for manipulating our society for many years. So we can see the truth because that's the only way to a battle against what they do, which is so, so lies to make other people do things in other places and take other actions that are against their self-interest or their better interests. And they interested their friends and families and their communities. And instead, we need to focus on who these guys are, what they've done, and we need to hold them properly to account.

We need to hold them properly to account. I also say, if you want to read a book, we, we is the original dystopian book that's before all well, and Huxley is what really made them look towards that as well, as well as their friends or being members of the CFR and stuff. So they knew what type of world these people were creating, because they talked about it.

you say, well, people aren't going to lie on the bed and they're going to be horrible and ugly, and it's going to be illegal to sleep. I'm on. Tell us more, obviously, this is a world that may be great. And I live in France sizing about for a hundred years, the lessee upset. That's it. That's all I got to say by this. Now

Speaker 1 (1h 11m 39s): That is the, that was a beautiful, my friend. That was a beautiful speech right there, and a call to arms. You know, I, I, I couldn't agree more. I, I, I often wonder if, if the spark of the revolution while I believe you're seeing beginnings of it. Now, if you look back into a lot of histories, you usually see a few factions or a few people decide like who were breaking with these guys and we're going to call them out. And there's an interesting guy named Tom Longo. Who's a, he's a, a Florida Italian guy. He's a little real firebrand.

He's, he's one of us. And he's saying that what he has been noticing is he thinks that like the, the chairman of the fed and that particular branch, like the Jamie diamonds and all these banks that are, you know, small banks, they're beginning to see, wait a minute, we're going to be cut out of this fricking deal here. And we're going to lose our ability to distribute money to the people we can't charge interest. And he says that he, what he is seeing is a beginning of a fight back from this particular branch of these big banks fighting what is going to be these news CBD C's coming out, which I think Whitney web posted something about the financial times and the coming CBDs is they need to have this national ID in order to make it run effectively.

Can you speak on that a little bit?

Speaker 2 (1h 12m 57s): Well, w I just to say, go back, like I say, I'm saying in the sixties with Dell all have, then every 50 will have his IDs. AVP will have his ID cards because you have to, to, to implement any type of tech, no state, like they want a tech techno fascist communist Nazi. Yeah. It's I mean, I mean, well, if you look at one of the presidents of the world, economic forum was a man named Ted Heath.

Okay. Do your research about Edward Heath and vomit in a bucket for four weeks? Yeah. Sorry, what was it? What was the crash?

Speaker 1 (1h 13m 39s): That's all right. The coming CBD CDs and the ID card that they're trying to force through.

Speaker 2 (1h 13m 44s): Yeah, of course. They're going to have to, they're going to have to merge, dig in, have to take away people's money and people's access to money because that's the only way to control people. Really. I really, I, I think that this is one of the hardest steps they, they they're gonna have to, because they have to give something towards these bankers who have got all of this money over here. They're like, well, we've all got all this money. Obviously. There's going to have to be some form of, and I think we could say, we could call it a pure transfer of wealth from one system to another.

So they're going to have to come up with an idea like this, and it's going to be, have to be representative of something that will bring the bankers in. And like I say, there's this whole class above, and they're all working together. So they'll find them, they'll find those guys. Those guys will step brown to load the tables of a certain shape. And they will have nice little conversations about it or come to their decisions. And, you know, Catherine Austin fats does amazing work. All she does is stuff. She wanted the most intelligent women around God, man.

I, if you, if you want to financial advisor, go listen to her and then you don't have to pay like thousands of pharmacists. The parents also, you know, she'll her, her vision or her, what she sees coming is, is quite dark, is quite dark place. It's coming very soon. They're going to have to, it's going to have to collapse. It's going to have to happen. And they've been planning this rollout, a CBD season. And we know, we know they're going to say it at some point out loud, you know, they could, they could have to say your money is going to have to be transferred into a digital way.

They're going to have to say it out loud. Now. They haven't really, all they've been doing is attacking digital currencies. So I can see how they go from one to the other, without it being completely in a turmoil all over the place and people being left behind and all of that. And that's part of their process and their system at the moment, there is a situation where they need to create chaos. They need to, they have grown up at debt that isn't monetary. It's an ideological debt.

I suppose it's one that it's a moral and ethical debt that has to be paid to people who they'd been claiming to represent. And so they've got to flip that representation around in some way, shape or form. It says, okay, now we no longer represent you and you have no representation. This is a new society we've created. But in the meantime, they also need to say loads of different things and have loads of different things happening so that you don't know what the hell is going on so they can just do it. Cause that's what they'd been doing all along. We so late to the party, they've created all the system already. It's already to go.

I don't, I, I not sure how we undermine it without them turning without first them turning against each other in some way, shape or form. So I, I w I was, I was, I think I'm a little bit happy by, or made a little bit positive by seeing things like the bank in Russia and China wanting to dominate their own sort of digital currencies. And then that means that it kind of like turns back into a national system, which then step as a globalist system.

I think this is a problem they're going to have when they come up to this of trying to create global governance, they can do it, but you have to get guy over here who looks a little bit different and thinks a little bit differently. The guy over here doing thing, and they're just not going to. So, so at the end of the day, they're going to say, Nope, but if you in control and younger, we're acquainted. When we've done this, we don't look central bank. Then girls, we don't want those two. I, I see a creation of a loaded going to work and are going to collapse in some way, shape or form.

I see like that's positive for them. They can keep nailing away. And all that happens is that me and you, I end up arguing with our neighbors because we can't afford food so that that's not very positive. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (1h 17m 54s): It's okay. You, if you look closely, you can see that, you know, when you go on Twitter or whatever, like you can have any opinion you want, you can, you can say I'm with Ukraine, I'm with Russia, I'm with Zelinsky, I'm with Putin, I'm with this. But what you must do is pay attention. They don't care really exactly what it is, but you must pay attention to the chaos. And we went right from COVID to, you're going to, it's always, you're going to die. You're going to die. But behind the scenes, you can see force majeure happening with wheat prices. You can see the breakdown happening behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (1h 18m 23s): I think that's

Speaker 1 (1h 18m 24s): Something that's coming.

Speaker 2 (1h 18m 25s): Yeah. Yes. I think all, I think that, I mean, we wrote about the, the, I mean, that's where we want cyber polygon was looking at. It was looking at the idea of the fake supply chain crisis and manufactured supply chain crisis to keep us all in this, this feeling. So a war starts in Ukraine and no really knows about how much green may create an an they, they produce. And so they don't know entails suddenly, then everybody's going, oh, well, we go around and prices have gone up.

And who does axis businesses, the turmoil and all of that stuff. There was something you said that had me had me thinking about something else. I can't remember what it was. Oh, that's really a thing

Speaker 1 (1h 19m 9s): We're talking about Ukraine and the, the, the war Twitter, the Twitter verse. But before that, we were talking somewhat about us supply chains and

Speaker 2 (1h 19m 18s): Yeah. W w you know, th th th the distraction, the

Speaker 1 (1h 19m 22s): Distraction

Speaker 2 (1h 19m 23s): Could distract people and its ability to keep people looking elsewhere. How can you get roomed at how do we, how do we stop people being worried about things they should be worried about? You know, it's really, it's a really, it, it says something. And this is really was, it says something about us that I think there's certain things about human mass, human psychosis and comes out. And they think that what I'm hearing is that a lot of people in the world are really sad.

Don't feel like they want to live and have reached the end of their tether. And a lot of the arguments and now become where I just don't care anymore. Just kill. So I'll do whatever you say, cause I'm just bloody angry now. And so I think people have been led to a point where they're so frustrated. They don't know that there is, it's almost like, it's almost like if, if you've, I just like, you know, that scene in a clockwork orange way, design has been open, that's happened so much that it's got to the point now where you're you're you're.

Ah, okay, okay. I'll change my completely, my behavior or whatever. There's a lot of that coming out. And I think a lot of it is about people just wanting to die, call up in a little ball and ignore everything that's happening. Cause it's so hard to, to work out. I, I have some weirdest conversations with people because I have just a different perspective of things. I have quite a positive perspective that, that humans have eventually get over this somehow and that all of the doomsday scenarios and the talk of do that, they give you is mostly a load of hooey and that they, that, that, that, that it's used to, to, to control you and to make you do certain things.

And of course, of course, it's so simple for us to understand that when you're having a conversation with someone in the park, oh man, I have so many conversations with people because I just walked around and talking to people all the time. I do it on purpose. Cause I talked to people, they talk to me and they find out what I do and they ask me questions and then I give them answers and they say, don't listen to me, question everything. And you know, and, and that gives them a basic foundation, but mostly everybody says, we're overpopulated.

We need to get humans off that's daily. That's the daily talk equity reverts do, is that it's something that really means we need some form of genocide quickly. If you actually read between the lines of what nearly everybody is saying is yes, we're too overpopulated and we've got a problem. What does that mean? No. You know what I mean? Think about it. And then my response to them is always well over 98% of this country that we're living in bread is not built on, has no people in it.

It's been, it's been bought out by a load of people who are wrecking it for their own good, a completely destroyed it, not replanting trees rather than being APN, managed by the people in a way that gives good care, love and protection instead will dumped into these big cities and tiny, small flats and having psychosis on at the time and all walking around, shouting at each other. We've got issues. Yeah. It's not overpopulation. It's a lack of available land due to the fact of landlords who live off the land and pushed them back into the cities.

And this is something that's hundreds of years old. I can go back 200, a hundred years, 200 years, 300 years, 400 years tell us all the time they rebrand everything that they do this negative. So people follow like that. That's fine. This is what normal life is. This is what normal life looks like. So they create what normal life looks like. And it's a fucking shit show. Cause all of these, all of this, all of these, all of these people who really believe that is too many humans on earth that I've met and, and having fought through that argument to themselves, nearly every single one of them are some of the loveliest people I've met and really lovely.

They care about their families or okay about their friends. They usually have little doggies running around, you know, they're funny, they're nice and not pernicious, horrible people. They're not like they, they, they, they, some of them are even opened up open-minded to what's going on in the world, but they've all been given this view two views. The climate is going to kill us all. So we may, as what can I say, house? Cause there's too many of us, you know, that's usually the way it goes. And that comes back to a 1970 free speech or can come back to a 1973 speech by a radio patchy at the world, economic forum, the third economic world economic forum event related to the, the report, the club of Rome put out.

So he was head of at the time calls limit to growth, which basically says that population is it's Mount fusion populations, too many population, not enough resources. So you've got to get rid of the population is all about population reduction and in the speech in 1973 and in the book, they suggest using climate change to manipulate the population so that they can slowly introduce things to reduce the population because the enemy of the earth and of man is man itself.

And it is a war on humankind. So that is the type of person that Schwab wants to get in, to speak to his boys. Cause that's what they're thinking. What they're thinking is that me and you are useless eaters. You . He says up on stage at the world economic forum, look at all these useless liters, look at all these rafts. And eventually we don't want the rats to take over the ship is what he says at the end of one of those speeches. So he is, I mean, all of these guys, they're all on the same level, like talking code and the code is so easy.

It's like child code, you know, it's they code code anymore because there's also like we we've got, we've got like loads of drama lives, a movie. We can read things through, simply read through bullshit simply now. Or most of us can, most of us free fingers. Can

Speaker 1 (1h 25m 37s): I remember, I remember when Novell Harare's book came out and it was just plastered all over it. I dunno. I think it was the one before dos dos, homos w whatever it was like, okay.

Speaker 2 (1h 25m 49s): Yeah, yeah. Homer day or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (1h 25m 51s): And I remember talking to some people and like, I talked to this, one of my good friends at my daughter's school. We always talk about what we're reading and stuff. And he's like, George, did you read this book? And I'm like, that book is dog shit. Basically the guy rewrote guns, germs, and steel. And you can always tell someone who's bullshitting by if you look at the, what they wrote and then listen to them, speak, like I listened to that guy's speech at the, at the Davos crowd, that guy is such a crock of garbage. Like that guy. He just, I don't know. I despise that guy. I think he's so full of shit. Right. I dunno why I had to get that out, but I did it.

Speaker 2 (1h 26m 23s): No, no, no. I, I mean, I, I mean, if it burns me up, it burns me up because I mean, it's about weight. Each of us have our own intellect. And what that was about when, when I got to about 2015, I was having a bad time in life. Like I had, I had been around a lot of people who I fought with friends and, you know, like we all know, or we discover that a lot of people who we knew all along with friends, aren't really friends and stuff. And you know, you get down. I know. And, and, and the music, the fact of the music scene was dying so badly and no one else could see around.

And I always, I found myself going, what can you see? There's nothing is nothing. There's no way to play anymore. What are we going to do? And, and I've been too busy just being like, okay, I'm just going to take more drugs to ignore that what happening. And so it was just, it just turned into a point where about 2015, I was being fed morphine by people. I didn't like for a proxy who were trying to get the addicted to something they weren't, they were trying to, they were trying to, they were trying to ruin my life so they could say, see, we were right. Your room in your life.

I was in such a bad place. You know, I, I, I was happy to be drug addled. I was happy to be so far removed from reality. Cause every time I looked out there, I could see all of the flashes of understanding that I have. Now I could see where the little tiny bits of information and what that meant. And I'd already done loads of research and I was wanting to quit. I was the same way. I was saying things like there's too many humans on earth. Anyway, bladdy bladdy bladdy blah. I was, I was partially that.

And then I, I could hear my words and I knew I did not believe myself because I love people too much. I love things too much. I love cats, dogs. I love all sorts of things. I'm a big fan of life. So, so it was always against me. And I did have to, I, I mean, I said to myself, right, I'm going to take a shit load of mushrooms. I live in south Wales. We have magic mushrooms growing out of the Hills and beautiful, particularly everybody knows if you change or alter your perspective, that you can come to a more rational conclusion on who you are eventually.

And I, I, you know, I, I did a lot of listening to the, the normal people would get you revved up for something like this, an experience like this, because I was already, I mean, like I said, drug take, if I was coming off a lot of the pharmaceuticals and saying, no, I'm going to look towards having proper drugs combined experience, you know? So, so we went up, me and a couple of friends went up to the Hills up to a golf, which is like two fives and like burial mound up three miles north of my house.

So he says, it's like a night. You could walk up there. It's beautiful. And yeah, you get up to the top. And in the right time of year, there's mushrooms all over the hell, I think, right? It's like they come in like seven year cycles. It seems. But this year that, that went up that year in particular, I found I had buckets and buckets of them and I literally said, okay, I'm taking like three, four months off of my life. I am reforming my, my love of the universe. And my mind, I'm going to, I'm going to take a load to spiritual experiences.

I'm going to do, I'm gonna, I'm gonna test my mind in all different sorts of way. Cause I'm, I'm broken, I'm broken. I may as well. And I'm at the end, like I was literally at like suicide point. I was like, I don't want to be here anymore. I don't like this thing. Like this whole thing is just not nice. And so, so I, I went through this wonderful experience. We've we've of course music is a wonderful thing to go along side. Something like this might work for a wonderful experience of literally coming to terms with my own mortality, coming to terms with the fact that someone may kill me.

If I say anything about the CIA or, you know, coming to terms with the fact that I needed to do something productive and I needed to get off all of these horrible pharmaceuticals, I had found myself addicted to that I needed to look at on, on humanity is what it was, which is something that's connected to the earth first and foremost, and realize that that, you know, why we, why we love the NF, why we love the siloed way, how we feel.

So I went for a big, a non-experience that did help me come out the other side and say, fuck them all. I'm doing it. Now. I am, I I'm going to put in the rest of my life is trying to understand what is going on and writing it down so other people can kind of understand it. And yeah, I might not have had the most wonderfully eloquent way of writing originally. I was not allowed to do anything in school like that. So, so, you know, I, I, I never got to really develop my skills until later.

But then I started writing about things that were really interesting to me. I started to understand the world in a different way, because I started to understand it from the evidence rather than what I was being told. And, and then what I did was something very, very particular, very important, which was I said, and this is to think I was coming round with review . So I said, I'm going to find every single person, whether I agree with them or not. And I'm going to listen to everybody. And I, I listened to, oh man, every day I was listening to Ben Shapiro fucker.

Josh, honestly, you wrapped the list, the bench of the road for two years, you'll end up writing a piece of a load of bullshit all of the time. You know, you, you, you, you have to hear the other side. You know, I did, I did at the time the intellectual dark web was kicking off as well. We have people like Jordan Peterson, Benj, Viro, and Weinsteins and material. This, this, the people connected with Peter tier, like Eric Weinstein is one of the, the, the main guys behind beat or, and, and these guys started coming out and some of them I liked and some I didn't like, and some of the views I found horrendous and some of the way that it was matter of fact, if I'm terrible.

And I had taken all my prejudice with me about I'd taken for the, for being like some sort of liberal left wing or something, I looked to drop all of that and understand what I had in common with these people I hated and what I didn't like about how they develop their arguments and what they were saying. Because the majority of people who can captivate you or captivate your mind will tell you a load of information that you really want to know. You don't have to actually like the person to, to, to hear that information.

And you can always go and check information if you want to know if it's true or not. So, I mean, it went through a process of really answering the first. I was like, ah, I'm done with everybody now. I'm no longer left-wing or right-wing fucking mess. A whole lot of the books I realized eventually is that from, you know, loads of research, loads of getting involved in things I didn't like or not agree, didn't agree with learning about the more was that humans are very silly. We're very creatures and everything's pretty simple.

And there's a lot of ideologies that are being put out there that are based on real fallacies and really what you've got to do in life. If you want to get by is you are learning your fallacies, you got learn all of the things that make an argument seem right, but completely wrong and are based on principles that hold no water once you actually check the Jacqueline. So I think that that really is what the process I went through to get to the stage I am now where I can now take in information and I can see people for bullshit very quickly. And what I discover is that now when I see people who are, I think of bullshit, I say, no, I don't like that person bullshit.

And I'll go away and I'll put my research, like head on. And, and I find out exactly why that person is within no time, because it's like, okay, what was this person doing here in this time? When everybody who was doing terrible things didn't know people were watching that in anybody's life. Like the time when they think they're not being watched. And they, they, they they're, they're, they're young and silly. And, and everybody like with Eric Weinstein, Eric Weinstein says a lot of stuff, man, Eric Weinstein says a lot of stuff.

Or, you know, at start, when I listened to him, I was like, God, this guy's intelligent. Oh, you know, everything he ate, Ooh, the theory of everything, why hasn't he published it yet? I wonder why he hasn't published yet published data. Why isn't he published his theory of everything? It sounds great. Keeps describing it to me. And I'm like, I want to know more. So I may as well research a few. We have nothing, absolutely nothing at all. The theory of fall it's put into people's mind by a manager of a hedge fund.

Look it we're trying to copy as people like the show and stuff for the past and try and think outside the box and trying to be really revolutionary. And we're actually a bunch of guys hijacking firms, more likely and just whipping them up. And then you go back and you discover, oh, where was Eric Weinstein? Apart from hanging around with all of the edge foundation people, which was fully funded by Jeffrey Epstein. And at the time that all of, oh, he's never seen Eric Weinstein, never seen Jeffrey abs dynamic midnight.

He met him once in a place where a man went to the meeting and it was weird. I thought straight away, I didn't see anything. No, I haven't seen it. And if you mentioned everyone's the greater point, the anything like that, you kind of like tries to say something and then disappears because the fact is they're acquiring steam. Yeah. Once before, and during that period, when he's meeting up with these people, he's also working for the UN behind closed doors. So you be careful who you listen to people because you look into their past and you discover I'm, I'm doing a lot of research on the people who are around me to teal.

And I find loads of different stuff on them. But to be seriously on it's, a lot of them are fantasies who are using people's want for fantasy for entering into that world as a way to motivate them, to do other things and accept this massive security state, which will have cameras looking at you everywhere. And people watching you all of the time, you know, they'll distract you of all the reasons why you should put all their technology in your home. And then they'll turn on the technology.

You'll realize, oh, I'd be knowing. I be quiet guy. He told me the theory. He knows a few of everything. Whenever I heard that one before, Hey, listen, if someone comes along, comes in on the side while everybody's doing something, he says, do you know? I know the theory of everything. I know everything, you know, I can show you. You will understand. And every time you'll ask me a question that makes sense. I'll say, well, think of it this way and come up to something that has nothing to do with it.

And it's like, what is a hypnotic deepness? Or like, stop asking the question. He does the old Joe Rogan. Oh, well you got to think of it like this. And you're doing all kinds. And all he does is he's magic trick in you flip the car and I got nothing over here. I know everything. And then the only people who agree with that thing are all a bunch of Epstein associates, the same sort of like all of them, they're all like, he's so clever people who were saying, yeah, add Stein's a genius, you know, extreme genius, extreme genius.

But I do think that people are probably under-represent abstain because most of that was in the world of very young girls. You know, that's where he's in space and young girls. That's what he was into. So these guys, these guys were the guys who were recruited by this, like this new hyphen eugenics movement. That was much more like hidden underneath. And we're trying to find a way to implement that into wider society and some of the tech.

And I think people like teal, Peter teal and Eric Weinstein are perfect examples of people who will say a lot of very clever sounding stuff. And behind closed doors, not even actually that much behind closed doors, they're working with elite, Peter files, child traffickers. You know, I mean, you know, Peter teal and Jeffrey Epstein were both in a business called carbine nine 11 together in 2019. So after well, after like 2018, 2019, just before that state is going to get the arrested and ended up, we're getting, getting a game garage in the south by some dude, do whatever happened, flipping off the edge of the bed while playing affects it.

Won't get now. So, so, so you know, these guys are well deep in it. These guys are well deep in their hand, they're using it also in a company was a woman who I've done a lot of research in called Nicole Young command. Who's linked with IDF linked on, do like described her as I've done free articles on it. Do not put her name in your description or in the title of this. Yeah. Or it will not stay up for longer than two weeks. Please call me.

I shouldn't even say their names because honestly I'm risking, I'm risking everything. I have been censored heavily for two and a half years by Nicole Young. Who's an carbine. And I have along with equity Barac, who's the prime minister of Israel, close Epstein, associate, and guy hanging around with all the little girls. Th these guys, these, these, she, oh, she also was with Epstein's on episodes flight manifest in 2002.

So, and September the first they were in Les Wexner as mentioned in the UK together meeting two us senators. I think I know the identity, but I can't quite confirm the identity of yet. I am working on that. Wexner was in it this year, easier. Last of the app Stein guys who is going to get fuck oversea. And this year is done. That, that I think they know he's coming to the end of his life. So they're like, okay, we can do it now. But that very powerful man is about to be exposed to something extremely terrible.

But yeah. Yeah. So, so, oh, don't mind, whatever you do, guys, don't mention you don't put a name in, don't put a name And if you don't put it, don't put it in Google because all you'll see is good things. Actually I'll tell you what, put it in Google and then put it in doctor, go and be amazed by how basically Google is only, it's just a really limited encyclopedia nowadays. And the other side is people going, who was at Fox? I mean, it's quite incredible.

So yeah, there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people hanging around in the teal vers and hanging around, linked with them were all associated with these people, Eric Weinstein and people, you know, they'll come out and they'll give you the old junk. See it for what it is. I mean, we've all got to wise up. We've all got to stop. Like they saying, oh, someone's given us the answers to everything quick. Let's follow him. You know, this is a, this is the oldest trick in the book. It really is. So it, I mean, Eric Weinstein is completely the ultimate version of this trick by coming to you and saying, he knows the theory of everything he thinks.

So little of everybody else's intelligence that comes out in everything Eric Weinstein does. So he thinks so little of people's intelligence, he thinks he's so above everybody. Now, his brother, Brett complicated. I think he's got some Dotty links here and there and he's brothers, Eric Weinstein. So I don't like him too much for the, you know, for that on the off. But I'm willing to give a Bret Weinstein the benefit of the doubt in many different cases, because I listened to him for a long time. I think he sounds most of the time, like a very interesting person, who's interested in things, but he has just one cup brother.

Who's a dystopian arsenal working for the UN and other things behind manipulative, you know, the theory of everything. So, so, you know, I, I am willing to say that even if they come from the same, if they come from roughly the same cloth, I am willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt based on their actions and what they say and what they do.

Speaker 1 (1h 43m 10s): Can I meet, let me jump in right here. I have two questions on these guys first off, and I'll answer them. I'll give you both questions. And then I'll let you answer here. Who are their parents? Like I tried to find who their parents are. Can't find it anywhere. Like it's not anywhere. I think it would be an interesting idea. Number two, what really pisses me off about Brett is that he's in evergreen and he's teaching, like who was the not Salinsky no, that the tactics, the tactics that Brett was teaching to the children, there was a way to overthrow the system, which I'm all for.

But it was the guy who he wrote a book, Houston, Chicago, gosh, dang it. I can't think of the thing anyways. He was teaching and that's fine. Those are great tactics. But he was teaching everybody at this school, which was a set of people that have had it tougher, whatever he was, teaching them all, Hey, maybe you shouldn't like white people, maybe white people are the problem. And then there's a holiday in evergreen. And he goes, he goes to the school on a, Hey, no way people can show up today, but he goes there cause he's not technically white.

And the kids are like, get the hell out of here, man. We're going to kill you. It's not white day. And he's like, I'm not white. And they're like, yes, you are, get out of here. And then as soon as that happens, then he runs and hides behind white people like, oh, Hey white people, like what happened? You know? But it seems to me that he was starting sort of a, kind of a race baiting tactic. And then he hid behind the very people. He was claiming where the problem Is. That kind of makes sense.

Speaker 2 (1h 44m 42s): Yeah. Yeah. Very much. So one of the last things I, I, like I say, listen, I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and I'm not saying Brett wines. That means I give Bret Weinstein being bill of health because I had gone through by Weinstein in Africa,

Speaker 1 (1h 45m 0s): We all make mistakes.

Speaker 2 (1h 45m 2s): Brett is an interesting cat, very talented guy. Absolutely. And, and a lot of the things he does seem very clever. So it makes me wonder when I watch something like I watched, it was wheat. It was about a year and a half ago. And it was Bret Weinstein was leading some sort of like group chat with a load of black thinkers, black people. The conversation I was listening to was just bizarre. And I think I was just trying to imagine what it must be like for the people who were taking part in this as black people to listen to a white guy, try and, and, and, and explain how things are because that's what he was doing.

And I found it really, really like, you know, that's, isn't that the whole meat of what the problem is is that we, we keep having, listen. We're about to have something kickoff over in this country, a big national scandal that I can't talk about yet. I'm part partially involved in it. When I was younger, I used to work in five-star hotels and I saw some very dodgy stuff hotels. And a few years ago, I spoke out about somebody who I had seen acting in a certain way.

And I think it's, it's now started a series of events because I spoke, I had a tweet and it went a bit viral and went like what 5,000, 6,000 people saw it. And I think it meant that the people who knew that that was going on have now had to do something about it to protect themselves. So I'm currently watching that happen. I know it's going to happen. And it, it massively affects the black UK, black community massively in a way that nothing, I don't think since the murder of Steven Lawrence, well, the black community in the UK.

And that, that if people don't know about the murders, even Lawrence, man, I could cry talking about that story. So I do, I'm, I'm fucking feeling the emotion there. That was a kid on a bus stop with his knee. And a bunch of white folks would come across to him. And they were really just the folks of the lowest order they would cause travel. And they would end up beating him up and stabbing him to death and he would die alone. And they would bloody take him to us before men.

And, and, and afterwards the police would help cover everything and help these horrible people get off so that they could save their own blushes. So the police, the met police could save their blushes. And once they realized they got caught doing that, then he tried to do something to expose them and do something. It's all been really messy and horrible. And they've even used Steven Lawrence, his mother, they brought her into like the house of Lords and stuff and used her to kind of do stuff, which when you look at it, it's like, yeah, all of it is like disrespect from the start.

Now, the black community has always been disrespected. And the national scanned line talking about is going to heavily affect the black community. And I'd been trying to reach out to the black community, that different people who were in the black community. And you can say to them, listen, can you help me with this? Because I'm a white boy and this shouldn't be a white boy. Who's doing this. It really is something to do with the black community is about to face like a massive moment of, of realization and mourning for, for some loss of innocence in the past.

I've a real big, this is like going to be as big as Jimmy Saville. I'd say it's. I know. I know. And it's not, I, we, you know, something when I, yeah, when I say something's big, I mean, this is really big. This is the, this is something that is like, you know, I, I, when I put on the top of an article, this is explosive. It's cause it's bloody explosive. If I put on, if I just put out an article and it's, this is the facts. Well, this is the facts.

This is something really terrible. And what I find really hard is that when you actually look for black voices where you find it being, co-opted a lot of the time by mainstream media, because they're in that situation. And this is an emblematic of the actual case itself, because it's someone who is able to have that ability with empower, to stand above a lot of black people who didn't have any power who were like, oh, if you'll let us close to us, then we like got some sort of power access to power. And then he used that to groom children.

Speaker 4 (1h 49m 34s): And

Speaker 2 (1h 49m 35s): You're talking that there's this fundamentally there's, there's this, this there's this, there's this gap between what white people think black people should and what black people should actually do. You know, it's such a, it's such a way of thinking and a mindset. I know I, I, I say this with all honesty and I've got something in my life, which for family reasons, I cannot discuss our respect for someone in my family.

That that means I have a real, I have a really important dog in this fight, man, about racism, racism. Isn't as simple as if you're white and black and et cetera. It's about decency. You treat another human being and how much respect you give another human being. And I, you know, I, what I see is that the black community has been really like knocked down for years and years and years and years and every country generations. And, and, and it's got to the point where when they look to rise up, now, they find the virtue signaling mainstream media who help knock them down the vertical in police force who help knock them down to virtue, signaling army, help them doubt, use them for their agenda.

And it's, it's like, it's so sad because from my point of view, I talk to lots of black people who are some of the most adulting guys around and can see through this. What I need is some good black journalists in the UK who are willing to expose something really big. Like, you know, I, what I, what I need is, is to, to see like the black community rise in the UK defend itself and to what I want to see as well, really mostly through crew, this sort of stuff is an independent black journalistic endeavor.

I, the mainstream media keeps co-opting black people for virtue signaling. And I would love to see more black people within the independent media fighting because that's where they need to be. They need to be on the front lines because they have some of the most to lose when society flips round. And these people reveal their mask for who they are. These people who are top, we were sorting out society. I promise you nearly every single one of them is white promise you. And every single one of them will be empower.

We'll not be thinking about certain ethnicities and et cetera. And that's why Africa is left behind. When we look at super power blocks and stuff and say, this whole world's turning is east and west. There's no south to it. And that is to change. That dynamic needs to change. There needs to be an understanding of like, and I really mean this. Like, everything I do in life is somehow related to love it. Black culture. I can't help it, man. I, if I, every single person who's ever sung in is black is my favorite person.

That's where I say, I'm just so terrible. Like, you know, I, it's just a, I love, so I love the solar humans. And is there any, is there any group of on earth was so much so than the black community? And I would love to see them take their soul black back, Take their soul back because it's been, it's been co-opted and manipulated by these mainstream aggressors. And there was a big history that you look back. They've never been on your side to the black community.

They've never been on your side. Let's see that change. Let's see that change. Let's see black people rise to the top from their own hard work and say, no, I'm not going to join on the side of you, your globalist system and your idea of who I am and how I should be and what we, what has been put upon us over the history and this malevolent pastor, we've all experienced. Let's create something completely new that isn't about you being white and UBM black. It's about you being human.

Like, and that, that is really what is made. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm really concentrated on that in near future. That will be something that I'll be looking at doing in the UK as well is trying to help, is trying to help give a voice to a lot of people who've been affected by something that's everybody's going to know about SU

Speaker 1 (1h 53m 56s): Yeah. I, I, in, in something that explosive tends to have roots in other countries as well, once it comes out somewhere, all of a sudden it's like squeezing a balloon, right? You can pop it here, but then it comes out on this side over here. And I think a big part of it comes down to class. Like there's so much propaganda that says, Hey, you versus you white versus black gay versus straight woman versus man. But it should be about class. Like, I think the test should be, show me your hands. Show me your hands. You got calluses. Okay. You're probably okay. You know what I mean? You're probably okay, but you got soft hands get out of here.

Class struggle.

Speaker 2 (1h 54m 29s): Eh, I, I spent a lot of many years working on a reception desk and hotels and his late manager and hotels and stuff. Yeah. I could have had the smooth offense, but at the same time I was working out on the guitar. So

Speaker 1 (1h 54m 43s): You got calluses on your hands, right? Some is tough.

Speaker 2 (1h 54m 46s): Yeah. no, I've met some people with got, I met some guitarists in my life. You ever also sustains finger

Speaker 1 (1h 54m 60s): Fingers. Oh, anomaly,

Speaker 2 (1h 55m 2s): Crazy things they do as well. I knew a guy who used to cut out Coca-Cola balls and super glue onto his nails to dream. It was extreme cause, but he played guitar like a demon. He was a fantastic about by, and so, I mean, if it works, it works.

Speaker 1 (1h 55m 25s): Yeah. Yeah. It's fascinating. You know what? I, on the topic of national borders, I read this book called Connectography by Dr. Parag Connie. And he's this think tank guy out of a Singapore, total CFR, total McKinsey. And in his book, Connectography he talks about what you're going to see in the future. And he wrote this maybe 10 years ago, he says, you're going to see the end of nation states and the beginning of city states. And it's going to be, you know, and you can already kind of see it happening with COVID like, if, if, if you look at New York or California, those governors, there are like little dictators and they go home with,

Speaker 2 (1h 56m 5s): How do you take over a global system is quite simply, you take away the power of nations and, and you make cities the center of the power, because then that divides the nation. It's as simple as that as well. And in the technocratic future, this is how you, you need everything to be fairly central. So I have a thing works because at the start, all new technology needs. You needs you to be fairly close to, to, to actually work. So they don't want people out in the country.

So I think one of the pushes into seas, they want to make these, my, I, I used to, I remember when I it's maybe civilization to or civilization for you back in the day, saved me as game. And they used to have the, the big domes over the cities and stuff that would control the pollution and the things when you got to the future levels, that was what you get. I haven't what they're called, but those, those, those, that's what we're looking at in the future. We're looking at these big, horrible mega cities like you see from 2008 D and you know, what's interesting about that sort of vision.

If you go to a waggler vision and you go to 2080 or some sort of scifi from the past, well, all of the rest of the land all around it is nuclear waste underground from all of the nuclear wars that happened from people ended up not getting on with each other in these different cities. You get the same problem. If you move everybody into the cities, you still get cities competing with other cities and wars between cities. And what's interesting as well. You go back to that urban kind of video that I link in with the, the, the thing recently, they say, you know, he says, literally you will buy your city's freedom.

Doesn't say you'll buy your country's freedom with the, at the expense of the freedom of the individuals of your population. So he doesn't say, he doesn't say you're by your country's freedom. He says, you buy your city's freedom because, and then again, when you look at the Peter teal verse, the teal verse, and what they do is wanting to create this idea of having city states have different regulations. And they've actually pushed towards this. And they've, they've like, they've workshop this out of having cities.

That will be just like new libertarian, say, city over here that has, has a ability to be like the, the, the, the California or whatever of the, the desert. And they'll plant it all be technology, you know, creating all be wonderful Nell ruler, and they'll have their own regulations. And they'll the Ross. And it will be the start of fundamentally getting people used to this idea that, oh, well, I tell you what I like doing this. Or I should be in that city over there, or I shall do this, or I should be in this city, draw them into the cities, draw them in.

You can get people to move in to, because the more I think they're learning now is that, and this is just from a personal, from every single person I know in Wales, you say to someone, you've got to go to the city, they go to the city, they live there and they go, oh, that's a shit. Yeah, everybody. I know who've got a Gump's lives in the city. He goes, oh God, what a horrible place. Now I want to go back to where it's beautiful because I got a friend who lives up in talybont in Wales, telephone, Tonasket, and telephone. Tennis is beautiful.

Your walk around is all like Hobbit land. Everything's really tiny, small, little, tiny, little stone bridges over things. It's all beautiful. There's nature, everywhere, valleys all around. You can go walk in in the mountains. It's just wonderful. Why would you want to go live in a company once you've experienced that? The whole point is as well. There's loads of this land out there that no one's on. And it's bullshit. It's overpopulated. They are telling you that while they're making you feel like it's overpopulated. Simulation is like a simulated event.

Experiences like VR. We are in like a virtual reality in the city. Like the idea that we go go here and we will be happy because we've got this and that and the other, we know what it means when we don't see trees, we don't see green. We don't see the stars. We don't see all the things that brings us back to nature. And it's, that allows them to form us from a very young age and manipulate what we focus on. Because trust me, I grew up in, like I said, I grew up in the 17th century in Akron society.

Yeah. Every weekend, we on a different campsite in the UK, somewhere in the UK. So lucky for that. Yeah. I would sit there from the, sometimes the first day we would arrive. We would all be doing civil war battles, 8,000 people all around the country. We'd all come to a random place. And we do it all be a big party. We attended live here all through the weekend. People parking like how all of the kids were safe, completely protected campsite. So when I say that I got groomed in the organization. I mean, it wasn't all safe, but basically the kids were just hanging around outside to be attentive and stuff.

And we're all able to play together, all dressed up in San Diego, edgy clothes, cannons, going off into my background and stuff. What you discover is that when you're outside, you grow up in, in the country, you will never be able to take that out of people come into the city, never sit in round a campfire under the stars. Looking back after you, you got to your tent and looking up and see, and just like this amazing display over the sky, having the fresh eggs, hanging around in nature, you know, that cannot be beaten and they, they cannot stop.

You keep having babies, keep moving to the countryside, keep doing the opposite of what they say, because that is true. Life, life exists. It does not exist in the cities. And I tell you, if you're worried about, if you are really worried about population and there being too much population, well, I tell you a country lives a lot easier going. So it means that people get brought up better. They tend to probably then have smaller families anyway. And then if you look at the trend of how it's going, and this is a very interesting thing, these guys all want you to believe that your, our population is unsustainable in all of this, but they've also done all of the statistics and all of the running simulations and all of this and what they all predict is the same thing.

And it's extremely interesting. We're currently on seven and a half billion. They say that once we reach 9 billion, we will certainly have a massive drop that it will population crash, crash. Because like we've advised forests where you have an odd number where reproduction has to be over a certain rate. And that rate one, once it goes below that it means there's be a population crash, more older people, less younger people, less generation to meet up matching to have babies. And so then what you've got is hell of a lot less people at a very high speed.

So the population crashed. They already simulated. They say, it's already going to happen. Whether or not we have war or genocide or anything like that. Like a natural thing that happens where we don't have to murder people. We don't have to put people in the house. We don't have to do that and go research that anybody can go research that the population is going to drop off. It's 9 billion it'll drop off partially to, to education partially due to other things, partially due to just the fact that when there's too many people around where people have the perception is too many people, they just stop having babies.

But also when people are educated better, which these guys avoid doing. So these people can't fight back. You have babies. So if we educate people better and people will be like, well, I don't want to have an unsustainable family. I want to have a little family. I don't want to be enjoying I'll replace what is on earth with what I have, like one for one, I don't mind that, but I don't want someone telling me a policy because there are no loads of other people who are going to be very uninterested in the new technological future about having babies or doing anything like that.

And that's why they expect the population crash. So while people are saying, no, let's manipulate this, that's evil. You know, let's just live life and see how it goes. Let's just go through this process, working together and not trying to see that, that side's the one that dies on that side. So wasn't that, you know, it's real inhumane. As soon as we get into the realm of thinking about technology, we lose humanity automatically.

Speaker 1 (2h 4m 27s): Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, that, that brings me to another point you made, you made the awesome point that we should be doing the opposite of what these people say. If they're afraid, they're afraid of too much population, so we should have more population. But beyond that, I think they're afraid of spirituality. And that brings me to the point of like, I've been reading a lot about the EBU Sydney and mysteries. And it seems to me that the, there was something about the Eleusinian mysteries where, you know, emperors would hang out with slaves and they would go to this festival and this, this outdoor festival, and whether there were psychedelics involved or not like it, it was a festival like a celebration of humanity.

And it brought people together. I was talking to Simon, Critchley a while back about, he's a pretty awesome philosopher. And he was saying that in the festival, what you would see is Demeter and perception and perception, he would die. And they would look for her and stuff. And I just found myself thinking, imagine being with like 10 strangers and maybe you're, you know, 10 grams deep on mushrooms and you see this child die. And you're like, oh dude, you're crying with the person that's you. And you forget what color you are. You forget where you're from.

And you, all of a sudden you have joined together in a ceremony, celebrating life and the loss of life. And then at the end of the ceremony perception, he comes back and everyone's like, we did it. It was like, it's like this being reborn. And kind of like the experience you had, where you, you were, you know, you got to this dark spot and then you came upon this three-day mushroom idea and you were reborn, like part of you died and something was reborn inside of you. That was stronger and better. And came out with this force was like, okay, I'm going to tack these guys now.

And I'm going to fight on the side of humanity. I think one thing we can do, but guys like me and you, and eventually everyone is weak. Even corporate was talking about the narrative and how important the narrative is. What if we can change the channel by talking about what we're talking about, but also creating a type of new Eleusinian mysteries where we have our own little sex. Like, Hey, maybe I go to Johnny is elusive. Maybe we have it at the same time. And it's this festival of humanity where we have these rituals or ceremonies because it's, it's the ritual that allows us to not the ritual, not only points to where we want to go, but it allows us to participate in the act of going there.

And it's that, those two things together that show us, Hey, we're connected. We don't need technology to do anything for us. We can use it. That technology doesn't care what we use it for. And we could use technology to free us. And that makes me think too, like maybe this is what freedom looks like. Maybe we are seeing the breakdown of the old stupid ideas that were thrust upon us by minds that were smart at their time, but have run their course. And maybe this is freedom. Looks like maybe this is our beginnings.

You know? And I was thinking,

Speaker 2 (2h 7m 27s): I, I never understood when I was a kid, I was waiting to go into school and learn about Romans. I was waiting to learn about ancient Greeks. I even eat. I mean, this is, I really mean from about five, six years old, I was told that I was going to be, they were going to be teaching us. And I remember this quite late. So one of my earliest memories, they were going to be teaching us about history. I instantly, for a Romans and, and niece told us, they're not going to teach us about the Romans that they had changed the entire way they teach or what they teach about and that they were going to teach us about British history.

And of course, that goes back quite far. I mean, you still got quite a lot of history, but there was a lot in Britain that is about rule of others upon you. And that, you know, that that was something that instantly I noticed that it was like, I was really sad about it because I had already, I mean, when I was young, my parents were obviously terrible. The idea of not letting me watch things I shouldn't watch. So I saw everything. I mean, the first, when we first got video player was about five, six years.

I must have been about six years old. And the first movies we got out on, maybe what we could tell by when these movies come out, cause critters now on the street to where I watched them all, like I only got the one, I think the first movie that I made my parents said, no, you're not allowed to watch this one. Whereas full metal jacket. And that was after he had blown out, his brains blew out his brains.

Then my parents said, no, no, definitely, definitely can't watch this anymore. I was like, nah, I want to watch that movie afterwards. I was like really pissed off to find out what the most I saw it. And then I was stopped from watching that staff, you know, I used to, I used to do things I used to sneak downstairs when I was young and watch all the horror movies that I wasn't allowed to watch eventually, or the really brutal ones. Cause obviously they learned a little bit as time goes on. I've completely lost my charity for a while. Yeah. But, but one thing that I learned from taking in culture, the little bits I had to being in this weird society, I was in it from a very young age, you know, every weekend I was suddenly, all my family were dressed up with swords and armor and stuff.

I'm walking around with cameras going off in the background. So if I'm a very early age, I was like, these two worlds are slightly different. And I really liked that old world. You know, that's really interesting. Well, I was well into the history and, and I think there was a, there seems to be continued when I was in high school, a concerted effort to take away classical philosophy, education and understanding of the great masters, like so crazy. And the like Marcus are really, as you talk about an emperor who can teach you about how to live your life and how to, I mean, just basically like viewing your day's routine for birds site from a bird's eye perspective at the end of each day is a fantastic way to change every single bit in your life.

You know, you were so scared to look at our own behavior and what we do. And now it's just such a basic principle of life to teach you how to be, how to act so many wonderful stories from the past, but they fail to teach you now because it gives you autonomy. It gives you a, not only it gives you a tummy, a Fort and all of that. It gives you the ability to make up your own mind and they don't want that. So that lack of education is being perfect. Purposely driven away from the ideals that you, you talk about that because they, they, they, they want to move us away because if we do what we're going to learn, the fact is what you say at the start there it's really important.

You got a load of people in the room. I learned something very important from an early age, from growing up and being in my, my parents would take us to a pub that was packed out full of people, dressed up in 17th century clothes. And I loved the locals who were like, what the fuck is going on here? They would always be like, like shot in the street. They would be lined full of entry, claims all the way down in every pub. You couldn't get away from it. They're all singing and dancing. They feel comfortable all around.

Some of them work like higher jobs and some of them would load dump trucks. Do you can't tell what's your drag. So when I grew up walking around in these pubs, like feeling very safe and I was safe nearly all the time, you know, I had my one experience with a very nasty man who purposely targeted me when I was young. He was a very horrible guy that went through a court case. And everything's for that, that, that, that is like something that, that, that, that is provable and et cetera.

But, you know, I had my bad times, but there was so many good people in that when I was a kid, I used to just walk around these pubs, looking for money on the floor. Cause they would always drop money. Right? Like bloody, I, I would make loads of money in the night. Me and my mates would be like walking around and then we get told off by my dad. He was always saying the same thing. You shouldn't do it. I'm not going to stop you. I was just basic thing on everything like threaten and he'd think about it for a second and think how he does it.

And then, you know, that's how I got my ear PTSD effected. Yeah. I, so I was like nine years old. I saw this sign of the shops in ups. I was like, I want me NPAC like the kid. And of course they shouldn't have given me any offensive property, bad idea, but my dad was pissed and my mom said right away, what did you grab disease it down to me that look at that he has, is he automatically meant that I had my APS, that they were like, cause you're a hypocrite now he's got well done.

Great. And then I go and have my EMPS, you know, but my life was walking around with a load of people who work completely different than what you'd normally have, or we're all having like a really great over the top time. We were all, hadn't seen each other since like a couple of weeks ago, you know, different, different musters in different someone major, somewhere minis. And some were like mediums. They, they, they would range in size like 16,000 people go watch.

These events happen. So, you know, it was also, it would be crowds you'd come and watch and then you get to interact with the crowds as well. But then you'd go back to your campsite. And it was just like a free fall on fun. And you've got to walk around and meet loads of different people. And I, from the age of, of being born from when I could walk right up until 19, I was in this society walking around the place, go in and just literally I would see a pretty girl. I would follow the pretty girl backdoor campsite.

And she ran back to her dad And nine-year-old stalking another nine year old. So that was basically my main job. When I was young, I chased the brake gel around. I changed the bank account and then I won't get to Catholic. They'd hide behind it that, and I'd say in the middle of them and start chatting her up in front of them. And of course, wherever I was, wherever they were, they would love the fact that I had that much in my life. Like when I was young, it was just having folks just go into just, just go.

I'm wiped into that though is I met lots of different people from lots of different places and that continued on through my life. And then I worked in hotels. I was kind of forced to work into my hotel. So I got to meet loads of different people. I was checking people in and I wouldn't only check them in. I would treat them like human. I would talk to them like, and I would make friends with them usually very quickly because the best way to, to control any table hotel is to usually make friends with the people who you can see are going to be the worst people and then find out why they'd be the worst people and talk to them for awhile. I guess you have to be at least enough to have enough respect for you that they don't decide to do anything naughty.

Isn't always easy, especially when you're working. Like there were 400 people stay in it and it's a crazy night. And you know, it goes, my head to you always have like one or two rooms and crazy, but you know, the whole point is I spend a lot of time, including from five stars all the way down to one stars. I, I, I actually started in five star hotels and worked my way down slowly. As I slowly went, I slowly broke four rules and was like, man, I can't be bothered knack everybody back to a part-time receptionist and everybody get away with whatever they wanted to do.

It's a free house. You know, I used to like sit in it. I used to like sit in with people, talking with people and having long conversations with people from all different walks of life, discovering about them, getting all different. What you discover is that the reason why they don't want you sitting together with groups of a different class is because you'll actually get along with them on the human faces and they'll get along with you. And you'll both change each other's mind about who you are. And that's the essence of that, you know, is having no structures in so that we don't have this class divide and that people, those, not your kids who end up in, in politics.

They're like, oh, I don't think that that's in Britain. At least that's what they do. And so wonderful. And that has given me some much. And then they go out into the world and they record of lives. And they're like, well, I don't care because I don't even understand what they're saying to me. You know, I worked in a place called I worked at the Virgin Megastore once upon a time. Yeah. I was up on the stage. Apart from the music tax, I'd be up on the stage of rock band, Debra in rock band, screaming in the microphone or playing guitar at the same time with some kids that playing drums in there and stuff and things like that and do it, do all the stuff that I was in the game section a lot is to have lots of fun.

And it went into administration, Virgin Megastore. So he got, went into bank, went bankrupt. You actually got to take it over three times. I went through each of the different bankruptcy processes and, and redundancy at the end. But, but when they did it, they brought in alerted guys from this company, a big, a big administrative big firm, instant young, you may have heard of them, one of the big financial firms to come in and do the administration process. And this guy walked in from Ernst and young. I was about a six foot tall and this fantastic soup that I, I couldn't afford.

For sure, even though I did have a very nice suit at the time. And I was very proud of it. It was nowhere near that. We, this Wipster posh hair flicked up in a way that I can't even imagine what he's is to do it, but you must spend them all. I got to get flicked up and he walked in and there was a load of us. And we're all like musicians and stuff. We'll have to work in a shop for a living cause we can't afford life. So we're all the people were pretty disgruntled in the place, which is like, and this guy walks in and honestly you can see why there's a detachment from classes when you have moments like this, because this guy will do that.

We just, we were just all like shaken. I have no idea what he's saying. And like literally got to a point where I just said to him, listen, boss, I like you in everything. You look wonderful, but I have no idea how to understand your accent. You know? And he was British. He was English, but he spoke in such a they're so far removed when they have to go and stalk with people. They no rare frame of reference or ability to talk with people on a human level. And that comes from this inability for our classes to combine because these people also know that if that myth was broken, that we would different people that we, that what would happen would come next with is the natural order of where we're heading.

This is evolution of humanity to work out that we're not different at all. We're the same people. We laugh about the same things. There's a couple of facts, one bag of bad eggs on both sides. As long as we all work together, we can all benefit and we can all be like friends. Oh my God. Imagine if you go to a pub with a load of people from different backgrounds and you all want to have fun and you can all laugh about your silliness and your, your, your different ways and your different cultural books, I've been through them. And I've been through, I've seen it. I've seen I've, I've walked, I've sat in rooms full of the richest.

People I've sat in the rooms full of gangsters. I sat in the rooms with all different types of people and I've talked to them more on a human level. They all talk to me on a human level. Every single one of them, you know, whenever we used to work back in the health. And then the day I used to like, like make friends with the party animals, it could be partying all through the night so I could join the masters in the night. I'd be like, I'm leaving now. And then I'd sneak up the fire exit and go up into the room and I'd blow. I wrote a big spliff that would make them all go. And then your friends for life, like, there's something about the fact that the upper class and the lower class at different, no, we're not.

We're both humans. We both laugh. It was the same things. I've had some really good experiences of that. It's been sold to us like that. And it exists like that in the dynamics that they've created, because they know that dynamic means that there's one side is their side has backing their side, has something to lose and means that they will fight their adversary adversary, which is us. So it's about creating that dynamic where if they do not work alongside the others, their class structure falls.

And that fear, that means that they will automatically do what anybody on their class in their classes is saying to do. We don't have that. We don't have that in the lower levels. We don't have that. We instead to just trying to get along, mostly just trying to get along with our lives while we get these people pressurizing us from above. So that's the system and it's only gonna get more and more to the, the, that there's a very small amount of top people and the rest of them get pushed down. And I think when we were talking about banks earlier and stuff, a lot of people who work in the banks are going to discover that those guys they're those guys, those guys who are riding high now, right.

High in April, get shot down in may my friend, I show everybody's head that as I said,

Speaker 1 (2h 22m 15s): Oh, blue eyes himself.

Speaker 2 (2h 22m 16s): Yeah. Well, you can tell you some lines and you can tell you some truths. I can tell you the truth probably is normal points to tell you the lights. But yeah, honestly, we're living through interesting times. There is an ideological crisis happening and is a human spiritual crisis happening. There's that is definite w we haven't trouble realizing who we are and what we are. Add it as an escape. A lot of people saying, well, we can become something else.

And we're seeing that expressed in loads of different ways, all throughout society, whether it'd be transhumanism or, or transgenderism, when, when it comes down to it, you, I, I suffered from something called Ray's disease, which is a hyper fiery disease meant eventually I got like a little scar across my focus. I had to have my, my fibroids out and stuff. And that was something that is not sure why it happens, tends to be something to do with radiation, apparently.

But, but like, you know, you go, I had a lot of hormones. I had a lot of other stuff I've done. And I had this problem from something external that I've put into my body at some point or something that's happened to me or something that I've been exposed, supposed to know in life, loads of people have had that. Do you know when I was at my worst, when my, my grades were worse, I had like basically 10 to a hundred times the amount of hormones and other things like that, the other people I'd go for their body and I would be fucking crazy.

Sometimes I'd be like, fuck it. You know? And, and life was, and you know, w w we are living in a world where that sort of shit is pumped into us all of the time, all of the time. And we don't realize the damage it does to us, and the way we interact with each other. And what you find out is that the more you purify your body, and the more you keep on saying that spoken this clip, but Hey man, it's of nature. So it's okay. But the more you, the more you, you stop putting pharmaceutical shit inside of your body, the more clear your brain becomes, you'll start to see the more you stop taking the easy numbers and shit and eating the sugary shit.

I love it, man. I love it. I love it. Go make yourself some brownies or something, get some good bone as the sugar or something here. Some, so sometimes you make it with good stuff and you'll find your, so love it. But also you won't be like goo pepped up on goofballs. Cause that's what they're doing to us nearly all the time. Even, even with the air, like, I mean, you, you breathe in the air and I, you can smell in the city. It smells bad. Dank, smells of sewers and car exhausts and stuff.

It's not good for you, man. It's not good for you. That's why they don't want you in the country because it kills you in the city just for can very convenient for their depopulation agenda. All of these things have an effect and the they, their cumulative effect that is going to, or that is going to have a massive output of death, of sadness, of all of the things that make us unhappy. We've got to run away from all of that or change it. And we got to make a new world, which is really nice.

And it's not true. It's about people being nice with each other and being one, one class, one class. I'm not saying like Soviet bloody thing. I really have, you know, I know seriously, it does not have to be communism, democracy. You know, it can be something else. It can be something else. And the thing is, is that we could become very limited. And we, we, we often withdraw psychologically to the things that we know the best.

So communism things like those have a risk of showing their head in some sort of form. And I think that's what we're seeing at the moment is we're seeing some form of fascist fascists Mo because commune is sort of like global governance co government coming in, because it's all about keeping everything production being right. Just, just, right. So you make the right amount of the people and everybody's remit art for the system and all of this and all of the workers and this not the other. And then it just builds up until eventually, you know, there'll be sending us to the gulags and we'll be like, oh God, they did it again.

How did they trick us? But funny, it's right there. I mean, they're trying that because they come to the point where I think they've hit a brick wall with a load of people like us who say right away, I want to do, I want to live a free life.

Speaker 1 (2h 26m 59s): Yeah. It's, there's so many points there. Like I've noticed in my papers, I live in Hawaii and you starting to see reports of in Hawaii, they don't ever report suicide. So I think it has something to do with tourism. However, it doesn't take much to read between the lines. And when you see articles like man found dead and work truck unattended death, like it's not hard to understand what's happening. Like people are giving up and in some ways they're giving up, but in some ways they're fighting. It's like, you know what? I'd rather die than do what you guys want me to do. So it's like this ultimate form of rebellion.

That's kind of sad, but that is one reason. I think there's so much propaganda. As I look at pay attention to Russia, pay attention to this. Like they don't want you to look at your neighbor. Who's struggling and fighting and scratching so hard right now to make it. You don't worry about him. He probably likes Putin. Do you know? Don't worry about them. They probably like Ukraine. Like if we stop paying attention to the carnival, that is being thrust upon us, we would see that everyone around us is in the same boat in the same shape and is struggling.

And that I've been trying to think of different solutions by looking at the tactics they use. And one thing I have found, and I would love to hear your opinion on this is that we have seen this radical transformation of definitions from vaccinations used to being that you no longer get a disease to vaccination, meaning, Hey, we're going to stick this Indian and see what happens. You know, we've seen the change of pronouns change and you know, these may be ideas that have benefited the ruling class, but why can't we start some sort of go fund me to lobby Merriman Webster to change definitions like overtime, maybe overtime should be like anything over an hour.

You have to get paid overtime, you know, or yeah,

Speaker 2 (2h 28m 38s): Maybe on flavoring. Maybe we should just call it slavery.

Speaker 1 (2h 28m 42s): Maybe anyone. How about this? How about greet? Like if we could get some psychiatrists to put breed in the DSM, the diagnostic manual, if we could turn green and do a disease, did we, as the people, we would be, it would be our responsibility to go to our leaders and have them get a psychological evaluation and seize all their assets because they're suffering from a mental illness and they're putting their families in dangerous. And I think it's true. If you look at Biden's kids, these rich people's kids, they're demented. Not because they're bad people because they're being forced to do things that they know are wrong and it's wrecking them.

So it's our responsibility to get these people have at least to get a psych evaluation. You don't want to freeze all their assets.

Speaker 2 (2h 29m 22s): Yeah, no, I, no, no. I would be straight up for starting at that point. And then moving on to something like, like, like moving along to find something that's more manageable and more doable, because I think that that is the automatic response to what they're doing would be to say, oh God, let's fight back against them and expose them for who they are, et cetera, et cetera. But I do, you know, the, the, and, and we got to have like some form of like how a system in place, loads of different things.

We've got all of these things. And I also, I, I mean, there's something interesting in the extremes of, of, of this because oh, kind of losing my train of 4k. Catch me up again. Sorry, sorry. Sorry. My brain is,

Speaker 1 (2h 30m 8s): So I think maybe we, I was talking about how we could start the changing definitions they have used and utilizing the road tactics.

Speaker 2 (2h 30m 15s): Yeah. So, so, so what my fault is is that the changing the definition and using own tactics is saying right, they go into that end of the extreme. So we'll go to that end to the extreme and we'll do the same and turn it around. I do think there's places for that. And I think that probably has a place within this as well. You know, there is place for saying, okay, we changed that. But then what we're doing is we're picking up the real negative tactics. We are forgetting the fact that the whole point is is that if they are changing words or manipulating words in response, what we should be doing is bringing truth to the original words they've met before.

So I'm, I'm I'm I think I, I, I would say that we've, we could both agree that the best place to start off, if we want to actually make some sort of that changes, bring some of those words back, take some of those words back and keep using them in the, in the, the manner and the sense that they actually mean and refuse to let them change it, and also keep pointing out the fact that we're refusing to let them change it. And that we're taking notes of all of the words that didn't change him.

Because, I mean, when you're listening to people now talking, it was a guy talking to a pharmaceutical company. I think he was God, he was a black cell man or Pfizer memories that he's saying about, oh, now we've managed to get gene therapies. The normal thing, we can keep pushing that along now, you know, that is so is, so it makes you feel so bad. You know, they've checked that the people will now then turn around and say, I've taken a gene therapy. Oh, well, then that means that you take your gene therapies, you know, that be the simplicity of how people will respond to it.

And they, they, they they've done that by changing a word. And that process of changing the word is a malevolent thing, rather than the actual, what they've changed it to or anything. The real process is the fact they're redefining things. And they're redefining who we are, what we are. We've got to make sure we keep the original definitions of what we know, because we are a risk of, if we play their game of psychological warfare, getting, getting confused, any words are anymore. And you know, it is very important as well for them to be doing the ones who are doing the double speaker, not us, you know, we gotta be, we gotta keep it pure.

True. We gotta keep the facts there. We gotta make sure that when they come to attack us, they find it extremely difficult because all of the evidence is there. And, and it seems pretty, seems all, seems pretty obvious by the time they get there. And that's part of like shun zoo. So sung zoo as well, the, the winning the w the, the battle or the war before you've even gone on the battlefield, you know, you have, what are they? Their, their natural response is going to be towards these things. And then natural responses are pretty procedural.

They're, they're operating procedures in place for everything. So when someone does something, they do something in response. Now, if you already know that, and you can already like him and candid with working out the future, nuclear out, what defensive or attacking measures they're going to take, and then you take things to neutralize it rather than to attack or defend that's much better, you know? And, and so their, their ability to spread this, this information to paint us as a way, the ones spreading disinformation is currently the tool they use.

And so all we gotta do is make sure our information is completely factual so that as soon as someone says, oh yeah, but you were doing this. We say, look at this. And they go, oh, You know, all it takes. And this is why, I mean, for when I'm writing a, a 7,000 word article or whatever like that, this last one, I mean, that was like that to, to seal up, to make sure that everything is perfectly accurate, that everything is grammatically accurate, that everything that nothing says, something that is made to say that it's all just happening.

So it's all got in that, those links as well. It's something I'm really trying to do now. And I promise to do too for everybody is make sure those links are not associated with things like Wikipedia and stuff, which is part of the world economic forum agenda, you know, finding ways to show people that information and prove that information through evidence and give them the, the, the, the, the, the first dependent to say, okay, there's something interesting. I do agree. There's something that is interesting. And it does have a link. So I'll just have a little look of that link. You know, it only takes one process like that for someone to change their entire life direction from being surrounded by false information about police control all through their life, to them suddenly realizing, look, shit, not only is there, all of this crap happened around just really terrible, but other people are seeing it too.

And that's a really important thing. And that's why we've got talking to our communities and we gotta be honest and open. We gotta push a view. When someone else isn't ready to receive, we've got to, we've got to talk to people and let them ask their own questions, but be approachable to people and, and make the communities they want to destroy backup and strong. And it's something that I took advantage of during COVID. As soon as people like ended up being locked to where not to go into work and stuff, they would go to the local park.

I live by to walk their dog. And then we look below the dog walkers. And after a while you go out, you could talk to everybody, you meet them all because they were all stuck with each other, you know, and they're all in the same ship. And they all feel like they've got no hope, but you can talk to them then. And you can say, you've got loads of hope. You've just got to see what is really happening and just not tell them what's really happening. Let them go on their own journey, you know, and their journey, if you're approachable and you're kind, and you're respectful, and you're human, those people will realize that the journey they're going on at that point, when they're opening up their eyes to the fact they've been manipulated for so long, and they'd been a control for so long, they will see that you are not trying to do anything terrible.

As soon as I shown you that, and you give them their own time to get over that. And then they'll be willing to ask you the question that's most important to them. And that, you know, is a key, not just getting people to ask questions, getting people, to ask the questions most important to them. That's key because everybody, once they realize, and once they've realized that this has all been a show shows or being a theater, they're going to have one question that relates to them fundamentally that they want to answer it.

That will happen as soon as equity wakes up. And the, the important thing is, is to be understanding, be honest, not give them the wrong answer, give them, give them places where they can go to find those answers and give them understanding that everything isn't the end of the world. It's not bad. You don't have to turn against anybody. We're all here together. And at the end of it, these people who are ruling us, aren't in the park with us. They're not hanging around with us. We have autonomy over the basics of our own life and decisions. And what we do in all we can do is spread a kindness to other people that love to other people and hope other people come out of this mass formation.

As many people have called it. This, this hypnotic event that is taken over main title, the selection of no, I have not big events that have distracted us from the real problems in society. And, and these guys solutions, the guys who are creating the solutions. Currently, they have solutions to how to organize the current situation and their situation they create, which is always going to be bad. They don't have solutions to how to make you feel happy. They don't have solutions to how to make your life better.

They have solutions on how to make their business richer. There's a real big, there's a real big change. As soon as you think that they have your best interests at heart, you are in your end. You've got to get out. You're you're behind you. You not, you're not on the right side of history. And that will tell in time, you know, the people, the people who were benefiting from every war in the past, I've always stood on the side that nearly always stood on the side to the people who were creating the war. You know, it's just the way of things.

Money, money makes the world go round and changes. People's opinions of things. And the only way to change people out of that is when they have nothing. And they look around and you're the only person who's willing to tell them the truth, willing to open up your arms and willing to say, I don't care what you've fought in the past. I won't judge you on that because I was there with you. We've all been there and we've got to heal and we've got to do it. And it's a long process. And I think this whole generation we've asked to sacrifice in blood is one thing, but it has to sacrifice itself in time and effort to help other people to open up their eyes so that they don't end up bringing the next generation up with the same lies and with the same deceit and the same Curtin.

So that in 20, 30 years, we have to do it all again, because this seems to be like, kind of cycle that we have awakenings every, every now and again, we've got to make sure that people stay awake. We got to give them tools so that they can manage when things get bad and that they have, it's like more communication skills that they can ask for help from people who are round them, real physical people, not people online, not people in need, not people in another country, but people who live next door to them.

And we got, we just got communicate more. We gotta be nice to people because we got to do the opposite of what they do. So when it redefine words, we bring the words back to what they mean when they try and split us and divide us, we've come closer together. When they don't want us to have babies, we have babies. And when he don't want us to move to the countryside, the first place we find is the most quietest place we can possibly relate it.

Speaker 1 (2h 40m 22s): That is beautiful. You're right. Like that, that, that was a beautiful set of ideas you propose. And I think that is how we heal people. And can I want to share with you one, one thing that I like that has really helped me see the world differently, and it's, it's seeing that, like, we get back to patterns and like, in my life, like I did, I have, I was molested when I was younger, but like, I think a lot of families have had that situation. And if you look at what happens to your family, when that happens, like it destroys the family because everybody still loves each other, but they don't know how to act to it.

And then like, Hey, there's these weird things going on. And I believe that the micro is a part of the macro. And so if that's happening in all the families around the world, and you can see the destruction that it brings, it's almost like that's, what's been happening to our planet. Like we've been abused as a planet and we don't know how to deal with the trauma the same way a child is know how to deal with that trauma. And it's just manifesting everywhere. So if you could apply the same techniques to healing your family in that situation, which is communication, which is understanding and hopefully acceptance and hopefully moving forward, those are the exact same things that we would do to our planet to move forward.

And, and, you know, the people that abuse them, like they, they end up being the person that they were probably abused, you know? And so if you look at the structure of our society, maybe the people that are doing the abusing now were the people that were the most abused when they were kids. And like, how, how is it that you get through to them? But it's, it's by doing exactly what you just said, like, look, you got to show them like, we're kind, Hey, we get it. It's hard. And I'm sorry, this happened to you.

But look what you're doing to these people below you. Do you want to repeat the same pattern? And I bet you, if you can identify, like, like you said, when you get around the really rich people, they're just people. And if you can get around them and if somehow we get the message out, like, look guys up there, you're no different. I know it probably feels good to tell yourself that it feels good for me to tell myself, Hey, I'm not the same as the guy who lives under a bridge. But in reality, I am, you know, that guy just dealt with a different, the same way, the guy above me deals with it different. And so the way that I, another side note there is like, if you think of your work, if you think of your life, like being in a novel or being in a beautiful play, you know, you can see where you're at in the play.

Okay. Am I, am I at this part of the hero's journey? Am I fighting the first threshold? Guardian, am I have I, have I gotten the call to the wild yet? Or am I the person that's now being the mentor? You know? And if you can see your world and your life as a spectacular show or a novel, then you can know at the end of the novel, you're going to stand up and applaud, start crying. Like this is the most beautiful novel ever. And if people can think like that, I think that they can begin to heal themselves and the people around them. I think that there's something to be said about seeing the micro and the macro and seeing patterns.

And I just wanted to share that with you because yeah.

Speaker 2 (2h 43m 25s): Do you know? Well, no sharing. Yeah. Sharing, sharing helps when the, this is the one thing, right? I'll say to whoever's listening now. I, I, I, as you, you, you can hear, we both had experiences of honorable sexual behavior in the past when we were children. And there's a lot of people out there who have that because the, like the person who targeted me within his lifetime will target an average of a hundred to 150 children.

And only 10% of those only. So you're saying like, say 10 to 15 will go on to abuse that working out. That's an odd number that is, is beyond imagining and has been going on for a long time. And you're right. When it goes into the family, when, when you have to deal with that, it destroys your family. If there is no, you know, as a, as a 10, 11 year old, I had to deal with the fact that I was no longer allowed to talk about something that was supposedly ended.

And this guy was then allowed straight back into normal society. I returned straight back into that society, that, that, that sentence at the seal, not the 17th century reenactment society. And I had to deal with that then all through my youth, all through the rest of my youth, that this guy was still around. He was free. He was allowed it not. He, he, when I hadn't told any, because of her fear for two years, that he had been grooming me. He molested a three and a half year old, and that destroyed my whole childhood, who my adulthood, even today, I feel completely in that responsibility.

And I know a billion people can tell me you're responsible and all of this, but, oh man, well, if you work out how things go, if you say something, something doesn't happen and yet you feel responsible. And as a child, I felt very responsible would be all the way through life. I felt that responsibility is scarred me and loads of different ways. And I knew later on, that was probably a hundred to 150 people that, that person who afterwards as well, my sister would see them hanging out, outside the toilets in the local supermarket.

You know, this is the type of person who was, would affect hundred to 150 people. And then another 15 Peter files would spawn from that, or abusers would spawn from that. Cause even, even I, I, I've done a lot of research into this sort of stuff because I've gone Peter, 500. I had people removed from schools and stuff. I I've done that. And I had to go on to other things because there is something sick in the top of society that allows all of this to happen.

And the more you witness that, the more you realize that does not happen for no reason. And there's a lot of people out here who are listening to this, who will all all have their own experiences when they were young. And we'll all be trying to make sense of them. And some of them are like innocent experiences. Some of them are stupid experiences. Some of them are not like someone grooming someone focused for a year, but someone kissing someone or something like that, you know, it's something that seems insignificant, but it stayed with them for their entire lives.

And what they've got to learn, this is what everybody who goes through this has got to learn is that little kid is your completely different person. Now you're a completely different person. You're every single fucking cell. Every bone in your body has been reformed every six months or whatever for all of that time. And you, the only thing you've kept as a memory and the sadness from that. And if you focus on it, you know, and this is what a lot of people do who have experienced this, or try and avoid it.

Even what are the two extremes again, with everything, it seems to be extremes. If you avoid it, or if you're focusing on it too much, it will destroy your mind. It will kill you. It will force you not to want to go out and see anybody else in the world or see anything because of all the harm and tragedy that's been in your life. And you've got to come out of that. And you've got to, can only come out of that by realizing that you're a victim of time and space, you're a victim of this call of humanity. You're a victim of every single contextual event that happened to not only you, but to the person who abused you and all the people who reacted in the way they did.

And when you look at it and have this wider, like opera of life that you go through, when you go through something like that, it's fucking horrific, like, you know, dynamics involved that make you really sad all the time and can affect you for years and years. But you eventually got realized. The only thing that keeps you there is your mind is that memory inside you and that memory can be used to fuel you. It can be used to say, I want to make sure that I create a world where there's not a little me set in, in a little medieval cottage being room for the first time.

Well, the campfire by some fucking guy's telling me what he wants to do to me. I don't wanna, I don't want to live in that world. If I stay in that room for the rest of my life, I'm doing. And so you, you have to leave there and look at the people who allow this sort of thing to happen. And what you discover when you look at them is a lot of them are also stuck in that routine from being abused, because it's an older people who are at fitting in the world, a lot of people were acting because they were sexually or physically abused as a child by a grown adult.

That's a fact, and these people who have been a children abusing children, cause they get bought up in this environment as well and all sorts of different things that can mess you up. And there's no way of really solving it because every time you go out, you've discovered that you talk to someone and they've got their own story and they've got their own story and they've got their own story and they've got their own story. Cause it's endemic. Cause like you say, every single family unit has something like that happen. Every single, like, like one in four daughters will come back and tell their family they'd been raped.

I mean, you know, and then there's more who will not tell their family. The whole, the whole point is, is that we're living through like horrendous trauma. That trauma is being put on us by a much bigger thing in society. It's an unfairness imbalance, an idea of class idea of all of this stuff, but it's also a dehumanization of us and who we are and who we really want to be. And we're on an evolutionary journey. Let's leave nurses, both physical and psychological is leading us to some, in some better place.

We know it. We know it for that. We need to leave our old psychosis in the past because the reason why everything comes out malevolent in my opinion, is because people have all of these bad experiences and they all hold on to them and they don't try and change things for the better because they're too busy, curled up in a ball, feeling that they cannot do anything because of the pain that they're feeling that is crippling them and stopping them from living a normal life, having normal relationships, forming friendships in a normal way, because nearly all people's arguments and stuff comes from weird things that happened to them in the past weird experiences.

When you actually delve into anything, when you talk to them for don't know, if you've discovered that no two people I've had loads of really bad events happen and that we are on the healing process because we, none of these things should have happened. And we're, they only allowed to happen because there's so many closed, hidden doors all over the place. And I'm not saying open up, everybody's please life. So everybody sees everything, but no one is approachable. When you go to school and you're being lied to by your teachers and you know, you're being lied to by your teachers and you need to stay at Hypernormalization and the police won't help you in the line to you.

And all of the other people are lying to you. You don't feel that there's anybody you can go to. So you don't tell it, we didn't, the cycle continues. And this is the whole point. Now people have got to start doing what they need to do to, to get over this. And a lot of it is not living in the moment that happened, realizing you're a completely different creature and time changes. It does, does a paste over wounds. Doesn't heal them completely because I can, when I talk about it, I'm still back there. I can still feel all of that emotion and pain, but there's a lot of grief in this gone by for the little boy that's in that room.

He's, he's, he's gone. He's gone that kid's gone, man. I've changed about 20 times through my life. I can't even, you know, I can't even imagine what it's like for him now. I feel for the kid, I really do, but you take it on and you realize that there's loads of these people doing this and everybody's had these experiences. And of course, all of the shit in the world we're doing is because people are really bad to each other for a long a week. We're having, we're having just desserts as a species and we've got to start being kinder and nicer to everybody around us.

It's as simple as that, we've got to start living on a basis of truth and not realize that's it.

Speaker 1 (2h 52m 47s): Yeah. It's beautiful. I've learned that like our greatest tragedies can be our greatest gifts and it's hard to get there. It's really hard to get there because you got to ask why and you have to be honest with yourself and that's hard to do, but if you can do it, I'd like to think of it. As you know, when you say we're evolving, I like to think that there's a higher power. Call it the earth guy, a call it whatever you want to. But I believe if a tragedy happens to you that that is the earth or this higher power telling you, look, I'm sorry, this is going to happen.

It's going to hurt, but I love you. And I'm doing this to you because I think you're strong enough to come out the other side and help other people. So you have to go through it. I'm sorry, but you are strong enough. And I chose you and I know it's fucked up, but I chose you. So you can come out the side and you go help people go grab their hands. You pull them up and you show them that their greatest tragedy is going to be their greatest gift. It's it forces you to think in ways that you probably shouldn't think in, but it forces you to think of things that can change the world.

You know, maybe that's what tragedy is bout as being put in the state of consciousness. Like why? Like if you ask yourself that question sleepless nights for years, eventually you get over the bullshit and you start coming up with solutions. Okay. I can't change that, but I could change this. Like I could change that and you can come up with solutions. And not only that, it gives you this weird sense of sight. Like you can see, I can see kids now, like, dude, I see what's going on that relationship. I see it. You know, let me pull this kid aside or Hey, I see what you're fucking doing. You know?

And it's, it's, it's like this ripping off of the scales from the eyes and it hurts, but it's a superpower in a way now you get to see, and you may not want to see it, but you can't not see it anymore. And so it's, it's, it's there's beauty. Like I think you use the metaphor one time of like the silk worm who spins a web and gets caught in it. So do we spin a web and get caught in it with our lives, but what happens like soon that silk worm Crow breaks through the most corrupt parts of the Chrysalis and, and emerged as a new form and the F the butterfly breaks through the most corrupted parts of the Chrysalis and that that's our species breaking through banking, breaking through barriers.

The most education, the most corrupts spots in our world right now are being torn down.

Speaker 2 (2h 55m 6s): And that

Speaker 1 (2h 55m 7s): Form. Yeah,

Speaker 2 (2h 55m 8s): Yeah, yeah. Correct. Because they'd been built as walls, as walls that protect their interests on the other side, and those walls stop us from being able to continue on because we were hard. We are now a stage con we're not, we're not present in or, or, or the, like, we're not stuck in the past where we're limited to what we can do. We are entering a new stage. We've got to have a consensual understanding of what we're walking into. We've got to be able to say, yes, we agree to it. And a lot of what they put up is the borders and the boundaries they put up is suddenly they hide what is really happening from people.

Cause we would disagree and we've got to stop doing that. We've got to start working together. But the thing is, is there's a monetary value, a monetary value attached to people doing or not doing something and, or not telling people, not getting people involved. And that keeps us down. So we obviously, I mean, we all know that money and capitalism and all of that as a lot to play in the way we value things and how we buy and sell. And now we trade and stuff has a lot to do with that. And the fact that people, most people don't have enough is is it doesn't give it, doesn't give anybody any type of like ability to purchase anything reality.

You know, that's a lot of what we gotta do. We gotta chase reality. You got, we, we, we've got to find a way to take it back without a monetary value. And so at the moment you can only buy it, which is again, a concept for a concept. It's it's I don't know, man. I will have to be going soon.

Speaker 1 (2h 56m 46s): I hear you, man. I was just thinking that, but it's just a good conversation, man. I Enjoyed

Speaker 2 (2h 56m 53s): Working

Speaker 1 (2h 56m 53s): With you. Yeah. Thank you. I look forward to talking to you in the future. Where can people find you if they want to come and search out more? I got your links below, but maybe tell them where's the best place to look at you.

Speaker 2 (2h 57m 4s): Yeah. I mean, I, I w I, I mean, I've wa I I'm on unlimited hangout at that's a brilliant place to be, of course. W w where is such a fantastic journalist. She has a great person, a really good human. I, I mean, God, she, she, yeah, she's wonderful. But her work is amazing. Some of the people she's got now putting out there is really starting to formulate, and there's no other platform in the world that I could go to and put produce for family values or the article that I produced the other day.

I there's no other place where I could put that up, that it would, it would be more fit. And Eva, cause it's, it's such a it's it's delving into the secret and the head wall. So unlimited hangout is a place where you should go and delve into some of the most amazing stuff. I have my own base kind of thing. I have a media base, which is punji monkey. So fun guy, monkey monkey.com. That is a place which I'm I'm. I got a mix of media.

I I've only really just refined it own set up more. If you want to support my work, I want to gain something. I have some nice branded NFTs and their garbage pail kids from the lake, proper proper ones. So, so if people do want to support my work and help me out, which is always a help, that's a good way to do it. And you get something in return. There's lots of, there's lots of things on there's way to police all to. So you get a police camera. When we see a camera where we see police and go up and make sure they keep our rights intact.

And sometimes we kick them out to wherever they are and how the fuck off. And we're doing more of that, but we've had some, there's some good videos. I find that a lot of my investigation work goes up on that. I'm trying new things like the welcome trust thing. I know you've tried that out, which is like a role play, a state, changing the article into more role play game type thing. So you get to the end and you can turn to whichever page you want and trying to, I'm trying to understand how to develop that into a bigger structure. So I have bubbles of knowledge, crossover.

There's also white rabbits that you can follow down those routes and they'll lead you to different podcasts, different articles that are connected, that will make sense of certain things. There's so much that needs to be made sense of. But once you get to a certain stage, everything becomes clear. So you see, I mean, for people who are at the beginning of this journey, look at it and say, oh my God, but there's so much information. I got to read this and look at this and look at this, start on the journey in a year and a half, you'll be like, oh, I know exactly what I got to look at now. I know exactly what I want to know, because I want to have these questions answered.

And these questions are not being answered by the mainstream or by these problems over here by these teachers or these professors, these governments. So, so, so you can have to go find the answers. And there are answers. There are places who are still got humans behind the wheel, but they'll disappear soon. no, it doesn't nothing it's already safe. If it doesn't have someone behind the wheel, that's where we're heading.

That's not such a hyper phrase. You can sprint, but you can also find me on Johnny venmo.com and Johnny radwell.com is where I'll post. I have , but I'll post that. Most of my new articles have all my old articles and links around the place, plays a thing to support me. If you don't want to buy NFTs, and you just want to support my work in that way, that way, I'm trying to put, choose loads of different work. I'm trying to get onto a platform that isn't YouTube. So I'm looking at probably rock fin for that, because I quite like in, at the moment.

Yeah. And a lot of the, the allies are there. So not to put all your eggs in one basket, but I find it a nice, you can actually speak with people who are running the place and the humans. So that's really nice a concept that is so, so I'll probably be there, but I li listen, I, you know, there's so much to take in, in the world. Everybody's got to go out and do their own research, understand things for themselves. And there's a lot of people who save this nowadays, but it's true.

Don't take my word for anything. You can click on the links of any of my articles and they're sourced as well. But if you want to go and do your own research and find your own knowledge, Hey, that would be appreciated because there's a drought of people hunting down things. And if you think you've got something that is really important to relates to any of the things I ever do or something that you think does relate. But it's really important when I really mean it message me, email me, tell me what's going on. I've got, I've got loose, different ways. People contact me, send me a DM on Twitter, the tragedy over there.

And then they just, they just pat me on the face. Now that he's giving me food, he would shut up. But yeah. Anyway, that's where you can find me hope. There'll be more up and at. Listen. It's been nice to have a, you have me nice to talk. I'd be happy

Speaker 1 (3h 2m 18s): Hours. Three hours, man.

Speaker 2 (3h 2m 20s): Flew by. Yeah, that went by fast. I got another I in a couple of hours. I got another few hours to go through. So I, I, I'm going to go have some Coco.

Speaker 1 (3h 2m 31s): You're a beautiful human being Johnny better when I thank you for your time and I'll be in touch. I'll send this all to you and I'll be in touch with my friend. Thank you very much. Awesome.

Speaker 2 (3h 2m 39s): Awesome.

Speaker 1 (3h 2m 41s): Have a nice day. All right.

Speaker 2 (3h 2m 44s): I know.