I mean, even as it's fading, as we're, uh, really crossing that path of totality, it's, um, you can't help but be, be in awe over it. You know, like it may seem like a really trivial thing, but you know, this is an ancient phenomenon. It guided people's, you know, spiritual path still continues to, I'm sure. And it's just, um, It's great that we have the science now to be able to predict these things and plan around them. And I hope all of your visitors out there are being safe and are able to share some of their eclipse experiences with us today. Yeah, me too. I think that the idea of the eclipse is, for me, like I've been having some interesting dreams, and I don't know if it's the eclipse, I don't know if it's the moon having an effect on the water on my body or gravity or what it is, or if it's just my own brain thinking maybe there's something to it. But regardless of why it's happening, it's definitely happening, and I can feel something changing. I like to see it as an opportunity to change my life or be a perfect time to go with that old adage of, you know, If people could switch the idea from someday to day one, you know, and I think that that's kind of what the eclipse is for me, man. It's like this momentous moment of change that you can use as a catalyst in your life. What about you, man? What are some interesting ideas that you have on the eclipse that you're kind of using towards creating a more effective lifestyle? Or what does it mean to you? Yes, the clouds are parting, George. Okay, let's see it. uh, symbolically and literally, I have to ask, how do the glasses work? I think it's better without the glasses. Yeah. So like I'm using the front facing camera and I'm just, uh, trying to find a good balance so that it's, uh, so that it's visible, but yeah, there it is. I know I shouldn't stare at it. I've got my glasses on and practicing safety, but yeah, what a heck of a way to usher in the spring. The spring is the time of of rebirth and, and reflection. And yeah, I mean, you know, I want to hear more about your dreams, you know, not, not so much, not so many dreams for me specifically, but, you know, just thinking a lot about just celestial events. I was thinking a lot about Nibiru and you know, the whole planet X phenomenon. And, you know, if the eclipse is going to look something like a polar shift where, you know, everything kind of gets flooded again. I mean, who really knows? And I know that there's no real accurate way to plan our time on this earth, but you know, when you live long enough to experience a solar eclipse or a few of them, I mean, recall a couple of eclipses in my lifetime. I really do remember Haley's comment. I remember on my old farm in Milton and really enjoying that and feeling, um, feeling that awe again. And that was a longer term event because if I'm not mistaken, Halley's Comet stays in the sky for like, you know, maybe a month, maybe a couple weeks, couple days. But this, you know, it's slowly fading. You know, I thought it would actually get a lot darker. But again, I think the overcast, the clouds are probably blocking out a big portion of this. And, you know, I'm certainly no astronomer, but I do have a really, really deep interest in you know, the, uh, things like the procession of the Equinox. Like I remember, you know, the, the Aztecs would predict things like the, um, you know, the, the, the galactic lining, the, you know, where all the planets kind of line up and that was supposed to be tied in with the whole, um, uh, you know, 2012 into the world thing. But, um, nevertheless, uh, yeah, it's really poking out now. I want to put my glasses back on. How about you, George? What, uh, What are you going to manifest from this eclipse? Well, I like to think of it as like a death and a rebirth. You know, sometimes the covering up of the light to me represents the dark spots in my life. But it also means that it passes. Like this too shall pass. And when I see the light being blocked for a minute, it gives me a moment to reflect on my life and think like, you know what? there's been some pretty dark spots over the last few years. And I think that the world we live in has been kind of mired by this dark passing. And I think that what we're seeing here is symbolic of that. I think we're going to see the light return on some level. Isn't it weird that there's like a ceasefire almost on the eclipse? Isn't it weird that we're beginning to see the curtain pulled back on the corruptive nature of power that has been just sitting over the world for so long? And I think that that's what this symbolizes. And I'm not sure why there were all these state of emergencies in all these different states, but- I'm kind of glad they were. I think it draws attention to the darkness passing and us moving in to a future that's more filled with light, be it in your personal life, in your relationships with your family, or in the world. And I really want to challenge people out there to start thinking in a way that's beyond the darkness. The darkness is passing and the light is being shown onto us. And if you take time to pray or Whether you believe in whatever God you believe in or what power you believe in, I hope everyone just takes a moment right now to take and feel that power and that light that's kind of trying to shine down on them. And they can feel the darkness moving away from them. I think that's what's happening, man. Yeah, that's beautiful. And what a great platform you have to help other people manifest their own dreams. And, you know, in the research I did, I understand that in Hawaiian mythology, they represent lovers. The sun and the moon are coming together. So it's not an ominous thing. It's actually an event of celebration. So I think that, you know, if you have the opportunity to be with a loved one or a family member and, you know, enjoy this time and, you know, draw your own conclusions, you know, may it be a point of inspiration and may there be other Other great things that follow. I mean, just looking at it now, like it almost, you know, it's a crescent moon. Like I look at it right now and help but think that it does look like a crescent moon. And, you know, I just really hope that this does bring peace and that this ceasefire does last. And that, you know, even if there is some sort of like psychosomatic effect of the eclipse, you know, beyond just religious culture, that it could just be a sign for anyone to just do good, to just do good. How are you spending the rest of the eclipse day? Have your other interviews gone well? What kind of feedback are you getting from your audience? Yeah, well, I think there's been a pretty big buildup. You know, I know a lot of influencers who have just made different videos about the eclipse and they've gone viral. And it just seems that there's almost this attention on what's happening. And I think the world is watching. You know, this is truly one of those events where the world is watching. And it's beyond... It's beyond money. It's beyond anything. And it's something that speaks to our soul. And I like the idea of it being lovers. And I like the idea of the dark and the light being opposite sides of the same coin. And I love the idea that it speaks to the idea of relationships. Because I think that that's the one thing that we have been kind of estranged from. With all this talk about AI, with all this talk about war, with all this talk about money and collapsing. What we're really talking about is struggling with relationships. And people, after COVID, people got locked up. you took the shot now you're gonna die all this craziness that's out there you know I i think that what we're really struggling from is this idea of not understanding relationships that we're all related to each other the same way the sun is related to the moon is related to the earth we're part of this bigger system when we start understanding that we're all part of nature I think we can all begin to relate to one another in a way that is more meaningful This is all from the eclipse. There's something that eclipses your personal well-being, and that is the well-being of your relationships. The way you treat other people is the way you treat yourself. The way you talk about the world is the way your inner dialogue reflects that. you know, we talk about reflections on the moon or reflections on the sun or the lack of a reflection on the earth. To me, it's all about relationships. And I think that it's these particular events, these, these eclipses or these, you know, procession of the equinox or these events that happen in the sky. They really show us something that's, that's greater than us, man. Yeah. True say breach on brother. You got it. They're a, I think for me, like, just being here right now, like, it's been cloudy all day. And, you know, I was worried about this being a bust. And now it seems like we do have a ray of hope. Yeah. You know, that, you know, no matter how cloudy a day it is, it's always salvageable. You know, you can always find that silver lining. I know I'm just riddled with dad jokes and, you know, all kinds of tight metaphors. But, you know, it really just helps me understand and, you know, explain. how this consciousness and this existence affects me. And, you know, I can maybe take a moment now just while we have some cloud cover. I'm just going to pan around the farm a little bit and show you this beautiful place that my wife Kat and I have built up starting with our animals. So we have the Brothers Grimm. which are three Nigerian dwarf goats. And then we also have two new additions to other goats called Arian huckleberry. So yeah, we name all of our, we've got a writing theme here going, as you know, and then of course the three little pigs, cinnamon, cocoa, and sugar, which are the Spice Girls. And then just panning around, We've got our outdoor kitchen and I hope that the bandwidth is okay here, George. Like, are we buffering or can you see this? Okay. Yeah, I can see it. Perfect, man. I just had my mic muted, but yeah, it's clean. It's clear. It looks good. Good. Well, that's another added, uh, bonus here at the dreamers writing farm is that we have a fairly high speed internet here. We've clocked in at around 2025 megabytes per second. And, um, Right over here is our fire pit. That's where my VR camera is set up. So what I'd like to do, George, is I'm just going to go check on it, make sure that it's turned off and make sure that I just got my footage. And I just like to pan around here back up to the eclipse. And if you could just, you know, continue your stream of consciousness, anything that you want to say to the viewers, and then I will be back in literally 30 seconds. I'm just going to go check on the other camera, okay? yeah absolutely man yeah so for those that are tuning in right now ryan's up in uh northeastern canada and he's got a retreat center up there he's a he's a dj multimedia genius marketer copywriter he's one of these guys that pretty much does everything and I i I leaned on him today because I know where he's at, and I was hopeful that he would be able to show us a little bit of the eclipse. But for anybody that's interested in ever doing a retreat or taking some time or if you're a writer or if you have a group, Dreamers Writing Farm is definitely the place you want to go and check out. It's away from all of the hustle and bustle, and it really inspires a creative way in which you can stream your consciousness into a project or a group setting. But I do. I mean, talking about the eclipse, I really think it's a fascinating time. And I'm hopeful that it marks a difference in your life and you find a way to do it. Ryan, I was just telling everybody about the writer's dreaming farm and all the ways in which you can become aligned with nature and be inspired and how beautiful it is up there, man. Taking some deep breaths to come in right now. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to... to own with you. Yeah. We'll just, we'll just do a sun salute, I guess. All right. The dreamers writing farm is beautiful. It really pops in the summertime and spring is when everything really comes alive and, you know, you can enjoy this, this property at, at its full potential. So yeah, we're really hoping that, that you can come out one day. I'd love you for you to come here and do a podcast internship. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like podcast residency in one of our bunkies or tents. And yeah, so we're, you know, predominantly a writing workshop facilitator here at the dreamers writing farm, but it really is all kinds of different creative endeavors. You know, we've got lots of, lots of different themes around the property and all of our bunkies are named after prominent Canadian authors and, So I guess my first franchise investment would have been the Copeland Bunky. He happens to be my favorite Canadian author. Have you ever heard of Douglas Copeland before? It doesn't ring a bell. It probably looks bad on me, but I don't know. Oh, we know that you're well-read, George. Okay. Well, tell me about him then. You would dig him. Well, you know, he debatably coined the term Generation X through his book released in 1991 called Generation X. And to be honest, I haven't read that one. And that's his biggest one. I've never really been able to find a copy, but whatever. I've read a lot of other stuff that he's done, such as J-Pod, micro surfs. Generation A is a recent one that I really love. And it's really hard to describe his style. I mean, all families are psychotic. Girlfriend in a coma. He's a Vancouver based writer. and yeah so I would say if you're going to explore douglas copeland's catalog you might start with generation x even though I don't really have anything to back it up with um his other his other books are great too and they have uh they kind of like you know flirt with you know punk rock and corporate culture and what it means to kind of like sell your soul to the man so there's a little and even a little bit of dystopian fiction in generation a which is about the end of the world and how you know group people kind of come together I mean that seems to be a a pretty common theme in a lot of literature these days but he really does an excellent job of with that particular uh that particular theme so yeah I think uh yeah we're still passing the path of totality so Yeah, I'm just going to bring the camera back on the eclipse. And I don't know if just, you know, watching it is going to be boring for your viewers. But, you know, if we could just spend a few more minutes outside, I'd love that. I also have my webcam set up in my studio, too, so that I can sit down properly and, you know, really see you more eye to eye. So for now, I'm just going to put it back up to the eclipse and then we'll carry on our conversation. Yeah, sounds good, man. Thank you. Great. Yeah, so if you're just tuning in right now, we're checking out the eclipse. It's moving through the later phases. And I'm curious to anybody out there, how are you guys feeling? Is your day any different? Do you feel like there's been a sort of death and a rebirth in your life? Has there been a real death and a rebirth in your life? I don't know. I hope everybody's okay out there. But the eclipse, it had a lot of eyes on it. It had a lot of people watching. Coming so close to Easter, too, I think that there's something to be said about that. Aloha, Lonnie. Thanks for chiming in over here. Speaking of ideas and books and writing, Lonnie, I don't know if you've met Ryan Clark, but that's a great place to have a writing workshop. I think that the Rattled Awake movement, we might want to all meet out there sometime. I think it would be a great spot for everybody to meet up and do some writing. I think there could be a lot of inspiration that comes out of there. For those that don't know, Lani runs the incredible Rattled Awake book series. It's more like a movement where she talks about people that are waking up and how they woke up and the incidents that happened. I think it speaks to the idea of the eclipse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so is this fiction, nonfiction, Lani? She's a, she's got a both. She was big on the, she played a giant role in the chicken soup for the soul series. You know, you might've said, you might say she was the soul of the chicken soup and the soul series. And, uh, she's moved on to her own. She's done an incredible suite of ghostwriting for people that have made, you know, I don't want to out anybody, but she's done a lot of incredible writing for a lot of incredible people. And now she's turned her skills on going and helping people, individuals write their own story. I know that I was in volume two and I wrote my story about, um, confronting authority in the world of multinational corporations and starting from zero and getting to be in a book that was a national bestseller, it helped not only get me exposure, but it helped me see my life a little bit different because I was able to write about it. And you know as well as I do, Ryan, when you're writing about things, you're changing the way that you see your story and you're reinventing your story. So yeah, she's awesome. And you guys, you probably already know each other, but maybe after the show I can, I'll set up something else. I think that'd be a good partnership, a little strategic partnership for both of you. Yeah. Yeah. Kat's, my wife Kat is a very ambitious individual. She's getting her PhD in auto ethnography and writing to heal. And She's got online courses now at our website, DreamersWriting.com. And then the hospitality business here is run through WritingFarm.ca. And yeah, we'd love to get more groups of writers together here. And I'd love to hear more about your process for Terror Before the Sacred. Oh, well, thank you. That was the first book that I wrote. And thank you for bringing it up. It started off... after I was writing a letter to my daughter's school about the way in which learning seems to be taking a change. And for those that don't know, like I've been huge into psychedelics my whole life. They really helped me heal from the death of my son. They've helped me through relationship issues. They've helped me after my, my niece died. Like it, The psychedelics have just been a way in which I've been able to see myself grow without any judgment. And for those people who find themselves with PTSD or relationships or just want to see the world different, psychedelics can be a great way for you to get out of your own way. And for me, I started writing this letter to my daughter's school about how we can learn from nature, how sometimes the answers are revealed to us instead of taught to us. And so the terror before the sacred is sort of a nod to that feeling you get when you're in the presence of something so beautiful that you're afraid. And if you haven't had that experience, I'm hopeful that everybody will one day. I always think of the terror before the sacred when I see the stained glass windows and the people before a deity bowing down and there's that sun beaming over them. Like that's the terror before the sacred. When you want to speak to the woman or the man that you love and you're not sure if they're going to like you, like that's almost a religious moment too. It's that terror before the sacred, that belief in yourself before you become something greater than you knew you could be. The idea of faith, man. And that's where that book came from, man. And it's a real special one to me, man. And I really appreciate you taking the time to shout it out, man. Thank you. Yeah. Faith and synchronicity. Yeah. There's also been a lot about the Apostle Tom, the Doubting Thomas. And he wouldn't accept the whole resurrection belief without proof. And I think that's where a lot of people are right now in terms of their faith and their belief. And I think that the terror before the sacred is a real way of coming to terms with maybe a bit of denial. maybe a bit of lost ambition, hopelessness, but ultimately finding that proof within your soul that there can be change and that we can move on and evolve as a society. And I'm looking forward to reading more of your work. What future books do you have planned? We still got you, George? I think we might be muted. There we go. Yeah, yeah, carry on, carry on. Nice call. Yeah, I think that the work going forward is just – Oh, there we go. Thanks, Ryan. Yeah. Um, as far as any new books coming up, man, I don't really have any new books online. I've obviously keep a journal and I, I do some writing and, uh, but I think streaming right now for me, talking to cool people like you and getting to travel around the world via the internet and express new ideas. I, I, I had this new idea, Ryan, that's that I borrowed from, uh, I think it was Lloyd Lobo who said relationships are the new currency. What's your thoughts on that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's less about, you know, building an audience and, and building a following and more about promoting organic endeavors, I suppose. And the lockdowns effect on all of us and our reliance and our compulsions towards things like social media, where it's all sort of very vacuous and, um, And, you know, so many different trends are fleeting. I mean, if you even just look at the eclipse right now, you know, how much attention is being focused on it, which is a good thing, but also the, you know, emergency orders that are being put in place by many cities. And I understand that, you know, that there should be a social order system to make sure that people, you know, treat each other fairly and, you know, don't go wild, but I think that, yeah, the Internet has such a great opportunity for, you know, extroverts like us. You know, you're building your audience. You're creating wholesome material. You're empathizing. You know, you're at a place where you can share your trauma and have a, you know, kind of get that reciprocated empathy that helps people. Helps us all. One of the things we were talking about, too, in the last episode, and I forgot the term for it, but I did want to bring it up, was ASMR. And I think I get strong ASMR vibes from you, George. Are you familiar with ASMR? I don't know. Can you break that down for me? I've heard that term, but I can't tell you I know exactly what it is. Well, and I can't. I'm an acronym guy, so I can't really... I don't remember the actual full term for that abbreviation, but basically it's so hard to explain scientifically goosebumps, okay? Like that feeling in your heart chakra when you're connecting with someone. Some people even argue that it's a sixth sense, you know? And not everybody can experience it, but when you're having a really good conversation with someone, And, you know, you kind of just feel your, like I say, your heart shock were growing. And I know that there are, you know, it does have a clinical name for it now, but it was something that I, growing up that I did experience. And, you know, maybe lost over time and then found again. But, you know, there's all kinds of, again, you know, not to get too tinfoil hatty, but, you know, the calcification of the pineal gland from things like fluoride and aspartame and, you know, a lot of the other vices that I personally struggle with might inhibit our ability to experience that ASMR. And I think that if more people could, we'd have ceasefires or we would have no fires. Or, you know, who knows? But that is something else that I wanted to bring up. And, you know, I think getting back to our eclipse moment here, I think the moment has passed. I think we've passed that path of totality. And what I'd like to do now, George, is I'm going to go check on my other camera briefly, and then maybe we can meet up in my shop for the conclusion of our interview today. I apologize for the background noise. My neighbor is taking great care of his property, and I hope that didn't interfere too much. But do you mind just doing a quick little narration, and then I'll rendezvous with you inside shortly? Fantastic, man. Yeah, and I appreciate it. Yeah, it's well said. And Lonnie and Ryan both put up what ASMR is. It's an autonomous sensory meridian response, ASMR. It's a tingling sensation that usually begins on the scalp and moves down the back of the neck and the upper spine. And then Ryan concurs and drops the same awesome hint right here is that it's a tingling sensation that usually begins to scalp and moves down the back of the neck and the upper spine. And I do, now that I'm able to read what that is, I do get that feeling sometimes. And I want to concur with Ryan and say that I think it is the evolution of our sensory response system. I think that more and more people, when you talk about enlightenment or you talk about becoming awake, I think we're beginning to... to understand people, a different way I think conversations are becoming more meaningful and when something is meaningful in a conversation your skin gets flush you get goosebumps like you're really connecting with those people and I think we're able to do it you know over the internet on some ways even though it feels better to be in the pre in the felt presence of the other when you can be next to someone and you can see like their nostrils flare up or maybe their eyes get big or maybe they lean into your conversation These are all different ways in which we're beginning to thoroughly communicate more effectively. They say that we have a living language, that the language is changing. And an example of that is when you think about not too long ago, companies began naming their companies as verbs. Like Google, it became a verb. I call it verbing. More and more people are using nouns as verbs. And if you just think about that for a minute, Think about your name. My name is George, or maybe you're Ryan, or maybe you're Lonnie. But don't think of it as a stagnant noun. Think of it as a verb, as something in process. And when you begin to see the world around you like a person, place, or thing, don't think of them as stagnant. Don't think of them as a noun. Think of them as a verb. And that changes the way your relationship to them is. When you begin... Changing that, when you see the world as verbs instead of nouns, I think that that has a sort of correlation to the ASMR that you're talking about because you're beginning to connect things the same way that feelings. move from the back of your neck down your spine, it begins to tingle. That's something more meaningful to you. And I think that, I think that maybe what this eclipse could be signifying to us is moving in to a more meaningful dialogue with our relationships. And so, yeah, I was just saying, Ryan, that, you know, a couple of the people came out and they said, ASMR is a tingling sensation that usually begins on the scalp and moves down the back of the neck and the upper spine, which is just seems like a better form of communication. woman's intuition you know if there is a uh you know if there are senses that we've we've lost over time you know if uh babylon is kind of ground out ground us down to the point where you know we don't use our brains full potential I really think asmr like you know it it has affected me like there's been moments where I felt like real deep connections to people and And it sort of seems to come out of nowhere. It just seems like there are real moments of synergy. And yeah, it's a really neat phenomenon. I don't know if that's too grandiose of an explanation for it. But I think back to our last interview where last May we spoke and it was a really motivating moment for me. You know, I thought I, you know, again, I'm, I'm, I'm an intro, I'm an extrovert. And, you know, I, I also sometimes feel like maybe I'm an omnivore in that, you know, your social battery kind of reflects how you're, you're able to communicate with people. But, you know, today is a beautiful day job provides and, and, It's great to be speaking with you here today. Again, I really hope that there's a chance for us to meet in person sometime. We'd love to come for a holiday there in Hawaii as well. What's next for the True Life podcast? What kind of other guests do you have lined up? It's interesting. I just spoke with a fascinating gentleman, Daniel Goye, I think is his name. And he created... an entire fashion magazine using a set of AI tools like Leonardo, Gemini, and he put all these tools together and he created the models. He created the clothes on the models and he created this incredible Vogue type magazine where everything was done via AI. And I, In that conversation, the reason I bring it up is that I think it speaks to the idea of the freeing nature of the world that is upon us. On some levels, we're being bogged down with these ideas of war and these ideas of control and these digital currencies that are going to come and take away all your rights. But I kind of see that being eclipsed by maybe this is what freedom looks like. Maybe the freedom for an individual who never went to school doesn't know the right people and isn't – Someone that is like a, one of the beautiful ones is going out and creating with their own laptop, a whole new industry. I think that what we're seeing right now is the leveling of the playing field and the rise of creativity. And that means that anybody can play. That means that the bar to entry is, is being moved away. And again, Anyone who has the ability or the aptitude or the courage to begin putting themselves out there can play at a level that was only allowed for the highest people that came from the nicest families that had the most money, the most opportunity. I really think we're moving into that. And it may not look like that for people, but in my heart, man, like ASMR right now, like I see it happening. And I want more people that have the courage to... If you're not happy doing something, stop doing it. If you're in a relationship that's not good, try to work it out. If it doesn't work, then you have to grow. You have to move. Growth is painful, and it's hard, but it's necessary. And everybody out there deserves to have the best life. And I see that. Maybe that's what this eclipse is about. It's like everybody, now is the time. Don't have a lot of misplaced anger at a job that you don't want to be at. If you don't want to be there, have the courage to leave or make yourself get fired. Whatever you got to do. Yeah, I can relate to being in uncomfortable employment situations and that sense of helplessness. It's not necessarily always tied to your income and your accomplishments, but... Yeah. You know, if you can keep, keep things going on, on the back burner and, you know, the whole hustle culture and grind culture can be hard to keep up with, you know, burning the candle at both ends and, you know, thinking about how I want to prioritize things. And, you know, even last Monday we were supposed to meet up for, uh, Well, it was Easter, Easter Monday and yeah, you were gracious enough to, you know, postpone our podcast today. And then that was, you know, a great decision where, you know, I want to be prepared as I can for, you know, all kinds of professional and, you know, in, in personal endeavors, but, you know, being able to, to speak to your, your wide audience and, you know, making sure that I have, you know, even like, using chat gpt we have chat gpt4 now that has been a great resource and you know I don't want to rely too heavily on it but you know I wanted to make some nice show notes for us today yeah and you know find different like anecdotes that I can share and you know trivia about the eclipse and you know it it it's almost it is overwhelming I mean there's no way to prioritize every single every single thing we want to talk about today but but yeah I definitely think that there is a creator economy and you know I think that if we continue to put out great content and you know find different different cool little niches I mean when we spoke last may I you know was really focusing on this place and you know I'm hell-bent on getting this the spring prep here done you know making sure that everything's ready for the may 2 for victoria day weekend here that's when this place really explodes and we get lots of bookings but but last may after talking to you i got back into djing I decided to you know really uh ramp up my midlife crisis and and start playing music again and you know from that it took me a few months to you know to get my setup all tweaked and configured properly but that for me has been a great outlet and you know I know nightclubs aren't conducive to traditional parenting, but you know, I'm doing my best to find, find a nice balance between, you know, my, my family life and the, the business that we're building, which, you know, hopefully will become a legacy business for, for our family, for our kids, Charlie, Lucy, Asia, Ali, and Jake, you know, they're, they're growing up here on the farm. and it's I grew up on a farm my wife cat grew up on a farm in milton that's that's where I'm from cat here in uh in the lion's head area so you know we do have that you know pre-internet post-internet experience and you know it's it is like a tool that if we can you know use this amazing communication device to you know sort of build up our audience and find different unique revenue streams. I mean, I've been, I do these dreamers revenue over your overview reports every year to see how we're performing. And, you know, it's really amazing how many different ways there are to you know, monetize creative work, you know, such as her workshops, her online writing courses, her writing contests, you know, bookings here at the farm. She's also doing a she's also a mentor through the Spark Grant, which is a Grey Bruce nuclear power fund that you know, did help us a few years ago, get started. And, you know, we're almost at the point, the goal here now is to, you know, get financially stable to the point where, you know, Kat can do this full time with me and, you know, all of our family can, you know, have something to look forward to and, see what they can do to contribute to the business. I mean, shoveling manure or shoveling goat manure is a really humbling experience, but I almost look forward to it now in the sense that my mind races so much and i I'm really happy when I'm doing you know you know carpentry work or you know modest renovations or you know animal maintenance so it's it's it's nice that I mean you know the music thing is it's still really powerful to me and I love performing and you know there there is a lot of prep involved and you know I wanted to to to come across as being very natural but um Yeah, so anyway, I'm running on a bit of a tangent here, but that's kind of the summary of the Dreamers writing farm right now. Yeah, I'm always amazed. when I look at the amount of things, the experience that you have, like when I go to Cosmo and effect.com, I see all the ways in which you were able to not only market yourself, but market different revenue streams. It's been inspirational to me to go and look at them. I look at all these things that he does. Oh, you know what, Ryan? Um, I got it. I got to go, my friend. I have someone at my door. I have something to come up. I will talk to you soon. Where can people find you at before I let you go? Oh, right. CosmoEffect.com, WritingFarm.com. Visit WritingFarm.ca if you'd like 10% off a booking with us. If you send it to our newsletter, you get 10% off. And also a shout-out to The Rumpus Room and Owen Sound. Big shout-out to Sean, Maxine, Tom, Eric. DJ Guru, I have a monthly residency at this beautiful club in downtown Owen Sound. If you're planning a trip to the Great Bruce area, if you're coming to Sowell Beach, stay here at the Dreamers Writing Farm. Go party at the Rumpus Room. And let's have a fantastic summer. Thank you, George. You honour me. Man, I am super stoked, Ryan. We're going to come back and we'll set up something else where we can get more into the facts of it there. I had a quick family emergency come down. Of course. Love talking to you, man. We'll do our thing. Have a beautiful day, my friend. Aloha. Maximum respect.